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The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

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**WEBBY AWARD FOR BEST MUSIC PODCAST**

“#1 music industry podcast to help keep you in the loop” -Spotify

“The 10 Best Music Business Podcasts of 2022" – Variety

Ari Herstand is the best-selling author of How To Make It in the New Music Business. Forbes calls him “The poster child of DIY music.” In this show, he deconstructs the brightest minds in the music industry, digging deep to find the tools,... more

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This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Ash Avildsen, founder of Sumerian Records. Ash shares the story of building one of the most influential independent labels in modern rock and metal, from booking DIY tours in the MySpace... more

This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Red Leather, the anonymous artist who turned viral TikTok videos into sold-out tours around the world. Known for his signature red hat, Red Leather first started his career by busking on... more

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This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Oskar Med K, a breakout Norwegian EDM producer. Oskar breaks down the "overnight" success that was actually years in the making—from the days of sending 500 cold emails to labels with no... more

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This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Ethan Berlin and Skully Kaplan of ROAM Artists for an inside look at the realities of booking and touring in today’s music industry. They unpack how booking agencies build and manage the... more

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Red Leather
Anonymous artist known for distinctive hat/face-covering branding
Independent artist turned international touring act
Episode: Going Viral In The Right Way Allowed Him To Turn Down Record Deals and Sell Out Venues Around The World
Oskar Med K
Oslo-born electronic producer and artist
Unknown (artist project)
Episode: He Went from 40K Listeners to 11 Million and a Coachella Slot in Under a Year as an Indie Artist
Ethan Berlin
Founder/Executive at Arrival Artists, now part of Roam
Roam (formerly Arrival Artists)
Episode: New Global Booking Agency from ATC and Arrival Artists Now Reps 800 Artists
Skully Kaplan
Executive at ATC, now part of Roam
Roam (formerly ATC)
Episode: New Global Booking Agency from ATC and Arrival Artists Now Reps 800 Artists
Mark Orr
Founder and head of Lab Records
Lab Records
Episode: How This UK Indie Label Sold 25K Records For 1 Band First Week
Michael Turner
CEO and founder of Rebellion Records; artist Platinum
Rebellion Records
Episode: This Artist-Run Record Label is Competing with the Majors in a Big Way
Brian Hobbs
VP of Music Festival at South by Southwest
South by Southwest (SXSW)
Episode: How SXSW Works For Music
Dev Sherlock
Director of Music, overseeing music festival programming and conference content
South by Southwest
Episode: How SXSW Works For Music
Neal O'Connor
Artist manager at Slush Management specializing in world-building and long-term artist development
Slush Management
Episode: Artist Managers on Music Videos, Artist Development, Long-term Strategy and True Fandom

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Ari Herstand
Host of The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 853 ratings
  • Best podcast for DIY musicians

    love how it’s straight talk no fluffff

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    catpostmedia
    Canada2 months ago
  • Great podcast for musicians

    Ari Herstand’s The New Music Business podcast is hands-down one of the best resources out there for anyone serious about navigating today’s music industry. He’s got this perfect mix of real-world experience, sharp insight, and a genuine desire to help artists succeed on their own terms. The guests are top-tier — managers, songwriters, label heads, and innovators — all sharing practical advice that actually applies to real life, not just theory.

    What I love most is that Ari breaks down complex t... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Liam USA
    United States7 months ago
  • Words have power

    I was happily listening to this podcast a couple years ago and one comment from Ari during one episode had had me completely stop listening (until I recently decided to give it another try) Over reaction? Perhaps. But also a testament to how incredibly powerful words can be to sensitive artist types like me working so hard at creating and believing in their Quixotic vision… the comment was something along the lines of telling artist that the one thing they should not do if they want to become su... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Orson Horchler
    United Statesa year ago
  • Music Biz Education

    Every episode is a learning experience for anyone in the modern music industry. I like to cherry pick episodes based on what I’m working on at the time, and there’s almost always something that helps me out or at least points me in the right direction.

    Thank you Ari!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lunarmysteria
    United Statesa year ago
  • Such an awesome podcast for any independent musician

    Absolutely love this podcast. been listening for quite a long time and bought his book which is great. Now I really want to find the Ricky Montgomery episode! Ari is just awesome! I really want to go have a beer with him. or if you are ever in Santa Fe New Mexico I would love to show you around.

    Nial Connolly

    Singer songwriter on DistroKid because I heard about it from this podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    yantraimages
    United Statesa year ago

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Going Viral In The Right Way Allowed Him To Turn Down Record Deals and Sell Out Venues Around The World
Q: What does making it in the New Music Business mean to you personally?
Making it means continuing to release albums I'm deeply proud of, touring to connect with fans live, and achieving a level of artistry and resonance where people sing along and are moved by the music, with a long-term, sustainable path.
Going Viral In The Right Way Allowed Him To Turn Down Record Deals and Sell Out Venues Around The World
Q: When did the Empire deal actually come together, and what made that partnership feel right for you?
After a second viral surge in 2025, I had multiple meetings and finally found Empire to be the right fit because they prioritized the art, had genuine belief in my story, and offered a scalable, artist-centric plan rather than just chasing numbers.
He Went from 40K Listeners to 11 Million and a Coachella Slot in Under a Year as an Indie Artist
Q: What made you decide that this was the time to release an album?
It just felt right and fun to compile the songs into a bigger project with meaning, rather than continuing as a string of singles.
He Went from 40K Listeners to 11 Million and a Coachella Slot in Under a Year as an Indie Artist
Q: How does it feel to have Feel out into the world right now?
It feels amazing after working on it for so long, and it's validating to see the positive reactions from listeners.
How This UK Indie Label Sold 25K Records For 1 Band First Week
Q: So tell me about those meetings. If you're in the mix and talking to an artist, what is Lab able to offer that might win out over majors or other services?
The pitch centers on being artist-friendly, offering a tangible team and a practical share of the pie (often closer to the artist than 50-50, with a license structure and multi-month commitments). They emphasize long-term partnership, depth of experience, and the ability to operate across markets, not just the UK.

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This show focuses on the evolving music business from the perspective of independent artists, managers, and labels. Episodes frequently explore DIY careers, artist development, and the shift toward direct-to-fan models, with deep dives into indie label strategies, live touring economics, and the impact of technology like AI and short-form media on promotion. Notable throughlines include hands-on rollout tactics, global booking dynamics, and the balance between authentic artistry and scalable marketing. A distinctive angle is freeing artists from gatekeeping by emphasizing community, transparent deals, and fan-centric business models, making it especially useful for creators and managers navigating today's rapidly changing landscape.

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Recent guests on The New Music Business include:

1. Red Leather
2. Oskar Med K
3. Ethan Berlin
4. Skully Kaplan
5. Mark Orr
6. Michael Turner
7. Brian Hobbs
8. Dev Sherlock

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