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DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling

Bret Fisher
Kubernetes
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Devops
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Cloud Native
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7 years running! Interviews from Bret Fisher's live show. Topics cover container and cloud topics like Docker, Kubernetes, Cloud Native development, DevOps, SRE, GitOps, DevSecOps, Platform Engineering, and the full software lifecycle. Full show notes and more info are available at podcast.bretfisher.com

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Control Plane CEO Doron Grinstein joins me to discuss how they’ve created an AI-native cloud API that virtualizes multi-cloud and hybrid cloud to simplify management and ship faster.

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What does an AI-native CI look like? The Semaphore team joins me to talk about their focus on making your agent harness the gateway to testing, fixing, and deploying your code.

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OpenChoreo is a “batteries included”, AI-native Kubernetes platform stack for Platform Engineers that combines GitOps, Observability, AI Agents, and Workflows into a custom K8s distribution “super pack” that is managed via Backstage, CLI, API, or MCP... more

Michael Irwin of Docker joins me to run through Gordon AI improvements, Docker Hardened Images and what's now free, Docker Sandboxes for running agents in proper isolation, Model Runner updates including MLX support on Mac, MCP Toolkit dynamic discov... more

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Recent Guests

Doron Grinstein
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Global Field CTO at Cast AI
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Senior Sales Engineer at Cast AI
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Julián Duque
Principal developer advocate at Heroku
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Mumshad Mannambeth
Educator and co-founder of KodeKloud, expert in Kubernetes and DevOps technologies
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Bret Fisher
Host of DevOps and Docker Talk, focused on Kubernetes, Docker, and cloud-native tooling with hands-on guidance and industry benchmarks.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 146 ratings
  • Entertaining, insightful, and actionable! 🔥

    Bret and his incredibly knowledgeable guests deliver nothing but value in each and every episode. Comprised of all the traditional things that make a DevOps show fabulous (deconstruction, innovation, etc.) coupled with authenticity and insight you won’t find anywhere else. Thanks for putting out such a wonderful show, Bret - keep up the great work!

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    ASobering
    United States4 years ago
  • Well I make it, so I think it's fantastic!

    Podchaser
    5
    Bret Fisher
    5 years ago
  • Great Podcast with really useful information

    I really like this podcast and all the premium content Bret Fisher makes!! 👍🏼

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CarlosLizaola
    United States6 years ago
  • Thanks

    Thanks you for this helpful podcast to learn..

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Furacao21
    Colombia6 years ago

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A single API for multicloud with Control Plane
Q: How does Control Plane integrate with existing deployment tools and workflows like Terraform, Pulumi, or OpenTofu?
The platform provides multiple interfaces (Terraform provider, Pulumi integration, CLI, UI) and a data plane that translates desired state into actions across clouds. It emphasizes API-first control, IAM-based access, and a neutral stance toward tooling, allowing customers to continue using their preferred interfaces while leveraging Control Plane's global orchestration.
A single API for multicloud with Control Plane
Q: Give us a little bit of your background, origin story.
Doron details his path from Dell and SAP to VMware, then founding Control Plane with a CTO (Dan Wilson) and leadership that built a team of engineers with decades of cloud-native experience, driven by the need to simplify Kubernetes, Istio, Grafana, and Prometheus into a single, unified API across clouds.
CI/CD via agent tools: Skills, CLIs, MCP, and more with Semaphore
Q: What sparked the move to open source Semaphore and how did you approach security during that transition?
The decision was driven by a desire to meet customers where they are, enable self-hosted use, and invite collaboration, while addressing security concerns by ensuring enterprise-appropriate controls like selectable LLMs, secure environments, and clear separation of duties; the team also built a robust MCP/CLI parity to maintain functionality for both CLI-based and MCP-based workflows.
Backup S3, Google Drive, iCloud, Notion with Plakar
Q: What does it actually take to build a backup system from scratch?
The guests explain that it requires a cohesive product that handles deduplication, encryption, compression, indexing, and reliable restore across diverse data sources, built on a well-defined, open, extensible architecture that supports plugins and multiple storage backends.
Find Your K8s Happy Path with RawKode Academy
Q: What advice do you have for beginners just starting with cloud-native technologies?
Utilize the tech matrix to find recommended technologies to focus on and learn, which will save time and facilitate a faster career progression.

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The show delivers in-depth conversations around DevOps, cloud-native tooling, and platform engineering, with a strong emphasis on Kubernetes, Docker, GitOps, and security. Episodes frequently feature hands-on discussions about tooling, governance, and practical deployment patterns, often anchored by CTOs, engineers, and technical leads from the Open source and cloud-native ecosystems. A standout trait is the focus on actionable guidance, real-world workflows, and emerging AI-assisted DevOps approaches, making it valuable for practitioners seeking concrete techniques and vendor-neutral perspectives. The format typically blends strategic context with implementation details, plus timely explorations of security, scalability, and operational re... more

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