
“Derisky Business” is a show that explores economic security issues within the broader national security and foreign policy landscape. Hosts Emily Kilcrease and Geoffrey Gertz dive into the weeds on issues like export controls, tariffs, and trade, linking these issues to broader debates on how to advance U.S. global economic leadership during times of geopolitical turbulence. Listen for new episod... more
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 57 | Founded | 2 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Category | Business | |||

In a live conversation at CNAS, Emily unpacks a new CNAS report exploring how the private sector can advance economic security cooperation between the U.S. and South Korea. She's joined by Tami Overby, Partner at DGA; James Kim, Director of the Stims... more
Sara Schuman joins Emily to debrief on the Trump-Xi summit. She explains why it's OK to have a summit that is light on deliverables, describes how China is viewing its relative strength in the relationship, and outlines what she's looking for in the ... more
Earlier this week, Emily hosted Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Investment Security Chris Pilkerton for a live discussion at CNAS.
Investment security has emerged as a central pillar of U.S. national security and foreign policy, with expandi... more
Emily is joined by Rachel Ziemba, CNAS adjunct senior fellow and energy markets expert, to unpack the ongoing energy crisis resulting from the U.S.-Iran military conflict and the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. They delve into why stabilizing oil pr... more
A year ago, the Trump administration unveiled an ambitious plan to reset the global trading system on a day President Donald Trump dubbed “Liberation Day,” overturning decades of precedent and ushering in a new era of a far more assertive U.S. trade ... more
María Pagán joins Emily and Geoff for a wide-ranging discussion on the past, present, and future of U.S. trade law and policy. They assess what’s working (and what’s not) at the WTO, the path forward for the Trump administration’s tariff strategy, an... more
Paul Scharre joins Emily and Geoff to talk about how commercial markets for AI might evolve and how different market outcomes may mean different types of risks for U.S. national security interests. They also get into the ongoing dispute between the P... more
In a blow to the Trump administration's trade policy, the Supreme Court ruled that the president cannot use the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) as a legal basis to impose tariffs. The Trump administration has relied on IEEPA tarif... more
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Exploring the intricate relationship between economic security and foreign policy, this podcast tackles a range of high-stakes topics such as tariffs, trade wars, and export controls. The discussions often revolve around the U.S.'s role in global economic leadership, particularly in the face of geopolitical challenges. The hosts engage with guests who are prominent figures in policy and economic security, bringing expert insights and analyses on how policy decisions affect not only the U.S. economy but also its international relationships. Informative and often peppered with light-hearted exchanges, the episodes encourage listeners to understand the complexities of contemporary economic issues in an accessible manner.
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Recent guests on Derisky Business include:
1. Eleanor Hume
2. Tami Overby
3. James Kim
4. Geoff Gertz
5. Sara Schuman
6. Chris Pilkerton
7. Rachel Ziemba
8. Kathleen Claussen
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