
“Derisky Business” is a show that explores economic security issues within the broader national security and foreign policy landscape. Hosts Emily Kilcrease and Geoffrey Gertz dive into the weeds on issues like export controls, tariffs, and trade, linking these issues to broader debates on how to advance U.S. global economic leadership during times of geopolitical turbulence. Listen for new episod... more
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 43 | Founded | a year ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Category | Business | |||

Derisky Business is returning for season 2! After a brief hiatus in which obviously nothing (nothing!) notable happened in the world of trade and economic security, Emily and Geoff are back to dive into all your favorite economic security topics. In ... more
We interrupt our summer break to provide quick reactions to news this week that the Trump administration will begin allowing Nvidia and AMD to sell certain advanced semiconductors to China - so long as those companies agree to pay a commission fee to... more
Emily and Geoff break their summer hiatus to launch a new CNAS report detailing insights from a trade wargame that examined how foreign governments might respond to a dramatic increase in U.S. tariffs. For this live event they are joined by trade exp... more
While Derisky Business goes on summer break, revisit your favorite episodes of the podcast and dive into the Summer Reading List, featuring book recommendations from previous podcast guests and work from CNAS experts. Emily and Geoff will be back in ... more
Richard Nephew, expert on sanctions and Iran’s nuclear program, joins Emily and Geoff to discuss the long history of U.S. policy towards Iran, the role of sanctions in constraining Iran’s nuclear program, and why the United States decided to proceed ... more
Geoff and Emily debrief on the latest news in the U.S.-China trade talks. Becca Wasser, senior fellow and deputy director of the CNAS defense program, joins to talk about what Trump’s tariffs mean for the defense industrial base.Shownotes:
Becca Was... more
To celebrate the podcast's one year anniversary, Emily and Geoff break down some big picture questions on how the trade wars are unfolding and the future of the global economic order.
Find all sessions and more at conference.cnas.org
Paul Scharre, AI expert and CNAS Executive Vice President, joins Geoff and Emily to talk about Trump’s AI dealmaking in the Gulf, the rescission of the Biden-era AI diffusion regulations, and the implications for U.S. national security.
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This podcast focuses on the complex interconnections between economic security, national security, and foreign policy. Episodes frequently feature discussions on export controls, tariffs, and trade policies, particularly in the context of U.S. global economic leadership amid geopolitical challenges. The hosts engage with a variety of expert guests to provide nuanced insights into how these issues shape international relations and affect business environments. A notable characteristic is the blend of serious economic analysis with lighter cultural references, making the content accessible while maintaining depth.
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Recent guests on Derisky Business include:
1. Richard Fontaine
2. Eddie Fishman
3. Peter Harrell
4. Joyce Chang
5. Alexander Panetta
6. Agathe Demarais
7. Bruce Andrews
8. Stacie Pettyjohn
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