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Conversations exploring China, technology, and US-China relations. Guests include a wide range of analysts, policymakers, and academics. Hosted by Jordan Schneider. Check out the newsletter at www.chinatalk.media/

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In the new era of global competition, being at the forefront of Super Intelligence innovation equals geopolitical power. To maintain leadership and establish the next world order, the U.S. is moving to cement its lead.

Barnett Koven is a Managing Di... more

ChinaTalk spends a lot of time on the leading lights of the Chinese economy... the MiniMaxes, ByteDances, Unitrees, and BYDs of the world.

But what about the rest of the system, the part growing at zero to two percent?

To talk about what's broken, ... more

Ukraine and Russia have rebuilt their armies around drones, deception, and long-range strike. What should the U.S. military take from it?

Michael Kofman joins WarTalk regulars Jordan Schneider, Justin McIntosh, and Tony Stark.

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• How ... more

Nick Brown is a co-founder of the Center for Technology and Statecraft (CTS), a new think tank spun out of IFP, that looks at long-term technology challenges and opportunities facing the US. Nick was a physics major, spent a while as a software engin... more

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Recent Guests

Nick Brown
Co-founder of the Center for Technology and Statecraft; former software engineer and physics major
Center for Technology and Statecraft
Episode: The MATCH Act and China’s DUV Imports
Travis Metz
Acting director of the Defense Innovation Unit and former head of its Drone Dominance Program
Defense Innovation Unit
Episode: Drone Dominance | Travis Metz - DIU Acting Director
Richard Bian
Head of product operations for Ant Ling, former software engineer at Microsoft and Square.
Ant Group
Episode: Why a Chinese AI Lab’s Product Lead Thinks AGI is “Inevitable” | Richard Bian
Saif Khan
Founder of the Center for Technology and Statecraft; former CSET researcher and government official.
Center for Technology and Statecraft
Episode: From Posting to Policy: Saif Khan on DUV and the AI Balance
Jordan Schneider
Host of ChinaTalk, covering China, technology, and US-China relations
ChinaTalk
Episode: Matt Yglesias + Jerusalem Demsas + Jordan Crossover Pod
Kevin Roose
Journalist, former New York Times writer, Hard Fork co-host, and author of AGI Chronicles.
Episode: AGI Believers: Kevin Roose on the Race
Bharat Patel
AI and data lead for defense portfolio at Accenture; former enlisted Navy
Accenture
Episode: Data is the Hard Part | Building AI Tools for the Military
Arthur Tellis
Special guest, currently of IFP, discussing AutoWarCom and Project Meridian
IFP
Episode: WarTalk: AutoWarCom + Project Meridian
Ethan Frisch
Co-founder of Burlap & Barrel, spice entrepreneur
Burlap & Barrel
Episode: Section 301 and the Spice Man who Sued Trump Over Them

Host

Jordan Schneider
Host of the show, leads policy and technology discussions with a focus on China and global tech policy

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 733 ratings
  • Rename the show

    This is called ChinaTalk and as of Sep. 15, there hasn’t been a China episode in a month.

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    windseclib
    Australia2 months ago
  • I'm probably going to be a former listener soon

    Schneider's high dynamic range Bro Yodel is becoming a deal-breaker. I disovered this podcast only recently, and I see it goes back a few years, so it's unlikely the host is going to wake up and take some voice coaching. The content isn't bad, and is growing more "salient" (the Word of the Day for the 8/24 episode); it's just too bad the general tone is so unserious. The show doesn't need polish or production values -- it needs the participants to speak properly.

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    3
    Gelatinous Parcel
    United States2 months ago
  • The jankiest podcast on my feed

    The topics discussed are interesting enough to distract me from the rock bottom production value.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Ben Dworkin
    United States2 months ago
  • Great Listen

    Interesting topics and great guests - love the music at the end

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AtulatHK
    Hong Kong3 months ago
  • Up and down

    The main episodes/interviews are very good. Skip all episodes with Dylan, Doug, and Jon (Transistor Radio), ModelTalk, etc.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Mya5728
    United States5 months ago

Listeners Say

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Hosts push thoughtful questions and invite expert perspectives.
Engaging guests with timely, multi-disciplinary analysis.
Guests bring deep expertise across AI, energy, and security fields.
Listener feedback highlights strong interviews but variable production quality.
The show blends policy nuance with practical implications, though some episodes drift into AI ubiquity.

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How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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Talking Points

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The MATCH Act and China’s DUV Imports
Q: What is the MATCH Act, and how does it relate to DUV immersion lithography?
Brown describes it as a bipartisan, bicameral bill that seeks to strengthen controls on semiconductor manufacturing equipment. It would move some equipment restrictions from entity-specific to countrywide controls, align allied controls with US measures through negotiations, and authorize unilateral action if negotiations fail.
The MATCH Act and China’s DUV Imports
Q: Why should we care about how much compute China has in relation to the rest of the world?
Brown says compute is a fundamental driver of AI capability and one of the factors policymakers can most directly influence. China's indigenous chip supply matters especially because it reduces other countries' ability to shape how its compute is used.
AGI Believers: Kevin Roose on the Race
Q: What would it take for China to get fully AGI-pilled, and can that even happen in an authoritarian country?
Schneider says Chinese executives are increasingly talking about pursuing AGI, and describes Liang Wenfeng as an unusually independent, unconventional figure with patient capital to support research. Roose says China's response to ChatGPT showed that it had not anticipated the shift, and that concern about China is especially personal for Dario Amodei, though the reason remains unclear.
AGI Believers: Kevin Roose on the Race
Q: Do you think people actually hate AI as much as they say they do?
Schneider says public dislike could become much more intense if unemployment rises significantly. Both discuss how AI adoption may persist even amid backlash, while job losses could prompt political responses and professional groups to resist its use.
Matt Yglesias + Jerusalem Demsas + Jordan Crossover Pod
Q: How is China thinking about this?
Schneider says the Chinese government is betting that advanced industries and new productive capacity can drive growth, despite an aging population, high youth unemployment, and weak economic growth.

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Frequently Asked Questions About ChinaTalk

What is ChinaTalk about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show features deep dives at the intersection of China, technology, and international policy, with a recurring emphasis on AI governance, national security, and energy markets. Episodes commonly explore how policy, regulation, and geopolitical dynamics shape technology development, from AI evaluation methodologies and safety frameworks to semiconductor supply chains, robotics, and energy resilience. Guests tend to be policymakers, researchers, and industry analysts who bring technical depth and strategic context, often relating global trends to US–China relations and broader security implications. A standout pattern is the blend of rigorous policy discussion with forward-looking scenario analysis, plus a willingness to tackle contentiou... more

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