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Conversations exploring China, technology, and US-China relations. Guests include a wide range of analysts, policymakers, and academics. Hosted by Jordan Schneider. Check out the newsletter at www.chinatalk.media/

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Kevin Roose, formerly of the New York Times and Hard Fork, joins ChinaTalk to discuss AGI Chronicles, his new history of OpenAI, Anthropic, DeepMind, and the people who believed in AGI long before it was cool and could make you trillions. Kevin is la... more

Everyone wants AI that wins wars. Very few people want to collect, label, store, and test the data it runs on.

Bharat Patel is currently Accenture’s AI and data lead for its defense portfolio, a former enlisted Navy sailor, and a veteran of the Army... more

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It's a new fiscal year with no new budget, and the Pentagon has a fresh batch of proposals. Two stand out: a four-star Autonomous Warfare Command, built to buy and field autonomous weapons fast, and Project Meridian, a future-of-warfare panel made up... more

In February, the Supreme Court ruled Trump's IEEPA tariffs illegal. So why is everyone still paying them? Because the administration rebuilt them: first under Section 122, then under Section 301, and now the 301 tariffs are in court too.

So ChinaTal... more

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Recent Guests

Bharat Patel
AI and data lead for defense portfolio at Accenture; former enlisted Navy
Accenture
Episode: Data is the Hard Part | Building AI Tools for the Military
Ethan Frisch
Co-founder of Burlap & Barrel, spice entrepreneur
Burlap & Barrel
Episode: Section 301 and the Spice Man who Sued Trump Over Them
Logan Wright
Partner at the Rhodium Group; author of Broken China
Rhodium Group
Episode: China's Economy is Broken | Logan Wright
Julian Gewirtz
distinguished author, former Biden China NSC official
ChinaTalk guest
Episode: Julian Gewirtz on Trump-Xi Summit, AI, and Mao Dead Fifty Years Ago!
Garrett Berntsen
Chief AI Officer at Accenture Federal Services; former Deputy CDAO at the State Department
Accenture Federal Services
Episode: Can AI Beat the Pentagon’s Bureaucracy?
Jerry Brown
Former State Department and intelligence community official focused on the Chinese military
U.S. Government / Intelligence Community
Episode: WarTalk: PLA, 2027, Nukes, and the Pivot to Asia Pirouette
Dan Driscoll
Cav officer and former commander noted for Ranger background
United States Army
Episode: WarTalk: 9.11, Death of the Army, So Long Dan Driscoll
Wesley Morgan
Author of The Hardest Place, focused on the Pech Valley and broader GWOT themes
Author
Episode: WarTalk: GWOT at 25 with Wesley Morgan
Joshua Saxe
CTO and co-founder, New Startup; former Meta AI Security lead
New Startup / Meta
Episode: Cyber Apocalypse, Now? Hugging Face and the Future of Cyber Risk

Host

Jordan Schneider
Host of the show, leads policy and technology discussions with a focus on China and global tech policy

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 733 ratings
  • Rename the show

    This is called ChinaTalk and as of Sep. 15, there hasn’t been a China episode in a month.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    windseclib
    Australia25 days ago
  • I'm probably going to be a former listener soon

    Schneider's high dynamic range Bro Yodel is becoming a deal-breaker. I disovered this podcast only recently, and I see it goes back a few years, so it's unlikely the host is going to wake up and take some voice coaching. The content isn't bad, and is growing more "salient" (the Word of the Day for the 8/24 episode); it's just too bad the general tone is so unserious. The show doesn't need polish or production values -- it needs the participants to speak properly.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Gelatinous Parcel
    United Statesa month ago
  • The jankiest podcast on my feed

    The topics discussed are interesting enough to distract me from the rock bottom production value.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Ben Dworkin
    United States2 months ago
  • Great Listen

    Interesting topics and great guests - love the music at the end

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AtulatHK
    Hong Kong2 months ago
  • Up and down

    The main episodes/interviews are very good. Skip all episodes with Dylan, Doug, and Jon (Transistor Radio), ModelTalk, etc.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Mya5728
    United States4 months ago

Listeners Say

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Hosts push thoughtful questions and invite expert perspectives.
Engaging guests with timely, multi-disciplinary analysis.
Guests bring deep expertise across AI, energy, and security fields.
Listener feedback highlights strong interviews but variable production quality.
The show blends policy nuance with practical implications, though some episodes drift into AI ubiquity.

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#109
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#126
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Data is the Hard Part | Building AI Tools for the Military
Q: What are the constraints that you're operating under in acquisitions?
Constraints include personalities, policies, resources, and the need to balance wartime agility with peacetime regulations; reforms like PAEs and CPEs aim to accelerate, but clear accountability and resource assignment remain critical.
Data is the Hard Part | Building AI Tools for the Military
Q: So let's ground ourselves with the dream. What do you want all this data to be able to let a tank do in 2035?
In 2035, autonomous platforms should enhance safety for warfighters, enable multi-sensor fusion and decision-making, and operate with human-in-the-loop verification while being trained on a continuously improving data pipeline and governance framework.
Data is the Hard Part | Building AI Tools for the Military
Q: Um, Bharat, why is data the hard part?
Data is hard because its quality varies, it must be representative of real mission scenarios, and the data collection, labeling, and governance processes must be continuous and robust to support reliable, safe AI on the battlefield.
Can AI Beat the Pentagon’s Bureaucracy?
Q: We're going to talk what the national security community needs, besides just API access to wonderful models in order to really change how it does its mission.
Beyond APIs, you need integrated data, rapid acquisition reform, and a governance framework that allows testing and iteration at speed, along with incentives to reward experimentation and the willingness to take calculated risks.
WarTalk: GWOT at 25 with Wesley Morgan
Q: How has embedding changed over time, and what are the long-term implications for war reporting?
Embedding offered early transparency but evolved into a constrained, often stage-managed process; as media access shrank, journalists relied more on unembedded methods and visual forensics, while states became more selective about who could accompany forces.

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Frequently Asked Questions About ChinaTalk

What is ChinaTalk about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show features deep dives at the intersection of China, technology, and international policy, with a recurring emphasis on AI governance, national security, and energy markets. Episodes commonly explore how policy, regulation, and geopolitical dynamics shape technology development, from AI evaluation methodologies and safety frameworks to semiconductor supply chains, robotics, and energy resilience. Guests tend to be policymakers, researchers, and industry analysts who bring technical depth and strategic context, often relating global trends to US–China relations and broader security implications. A standout pattern is the blend of rigorous policy discussion with forward-looking scenario analysis, plus a willingness to tackle contentiou... more

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4. Julian Gewirtz
5. Garrett Berntsen
6. Jerry Brown
7. Dan Driscoll
8. Wesley Morgan

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