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Trade experts Scott Miller and Bill Reinsch break down the buzz around trade, how it affects policy, and how it impacts your day-to-day. The Trade Guys is a weekly podcast from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, D.C.

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On this episode of The Trade Guys, Bill and Scott sit down with Dawson Law, Founder of Conseil Global Advisors and former Representative to the United Kingdom for the U.S. Treasury Department, to discuss the role of the dollar and the use of currenci... more

Bill and Scott discuss the Trump administration’s new diesel deal with Russia, examine a new agreement between Europe and China to limit Chinese hybrid vehicle exports, and unpack the latest court ruling on refunds for the overturned emergency tariff... more

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Bill and Scott discuss France and Germany’s push to strengthen Europe’s trade defenses against China, examine the Trump administration’s pressure on allies over emergency diesel supplies, and unpack the status of major foreign investment pledges, inc... more

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Bill and Scott break down what came out of the Trump-Xi Summit, take a look at the U.S. Trade Representative's gathering of G20 trade ministers in Milwaukee, and unpack why the EU is pressing China to limit exports of hybrid vehicles.

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Recent Guests

Angela Ellard
Former Deputy Director General of the WTO; longtime trade practitioner
WTO (World Trade Organization)
Episode: Angela Ellard on the 2026 WTO Public Forum
Scott Kennedy
Senior Advisor and Trustee Chair for Chinese Business and Economics at CSIS
CSIS
Episode: The Trump-Xi Summit and All Things China with Scott Kennedy
Dennis Darby
President and Chief Executive Officer of the Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters
Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters
Episode: The U.S.-Canada Trade Meltdown with Dennis Darby
Zainab Usman
Senior Research Scholar at the Center on Global Energy Policy, Columbia University
Columbia University
Episode: Zainab Usman on Critical Minerals and AGOA
Dan Anthony
President of Trade Partnership Worldwide
Trade Partnership Worldwide
Episode: Dan Anthony on Tariffs and Small Businesses
Alex Kisling
Host of The Trade Guys
CSIS
Episode: Dan Anthony on Tariffs and Small Businesses
Diego Marroquín Bitar
Latin American program lead at CSIS; leads the USMCA Strategic Initiative
CSIS Americas Program
Episode: USMCA Review Deadline with CSIS's Diego Marroquín Bitar
Evan Brown
Guest, long-time participant in The Trade Guys economics segment
CSIS
Episode: China's Retaliatory Tariffs, Section 301 Authorities, and Tariff Refund Litigation
Nasim Fussell
Director of Trade and Investment at the Business Roundtable
Business Roundtable
Episode: Business Roundtable's Nasim Fussell Talks USMCA

Hosts

Scott Miller
Host of The Trade Guys
Bill Reinsch
Co-host of The Trade Guys
Alex Kisling
Host/Presenter introducing the episode

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 317 ratings
  • Tops on trade

    The Trade Guys offer consistently high-quality analysis on the complex world of global trade. The hosts provide clear, thoughtful insights that make even the most technical issues accessible. Always informative, balanced, and engaging, The Trade Guys is an essential listen for anyone seeking to understand the forces shaping today’s global economy

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    5
    Foshin
    United Statesa year ago
  • Selective memory- 11 Aug 2025

    After the communists won the civil war in China and established the PRC in 1959, the U.S. imposed a trade embargo on PRC and sanctioned any country that did not do the same, while PRC was experiencing famine to starve out the Chinese. Only a handful of countries like Canada exported food to PRC. The USA has always used trade as political weapon to maintain its supremacy, in ways that makes PRC ways childlike, when it isn’t dropping bombs.

    Look what the US is doing to Cuba now.

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    3
    tptkto3
    Canadaa year ago
  • Great show

    RIP Andrew - I thought it was a distasteful joke at first. Luckily, this shows content, along with Bill and Scott, will be able to maintain and still provide valuable information. Please find a different moderator, the interim one is… yikes

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    5
    consumer1156
    United Statesa year ago
  • Tin can and string

    I think there is some good stuff here…if their producer could get everyone better audio setups, especially in conference environments and for Scott. He often sounds as if he’s talking from one end of a metal tube. It’s exhausting to listen to, so often I just hit pause, and then end up never coming back…until the next interesting episode title, where, you guessed it, the audio for Scott is just the same…so I hit pause…and in this case, leave a rating and review.

    Production values matter!

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    Refined Taster
    United Statesa year ago
  • Jingoistic rather than insightful

    This used to be so good, but lately has become (largely through its host) boorish and has lost is insightful analysis

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    Christian in Guildford
    United Kingdoma year ago

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Hosts deliver balanced, knowledgeable perspectives with strong guest lineups.
Listeners appreciate practical takeaways for business and policy.
High-quality, accessible analysis of complex trade topics.

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U.S.-Russia Diesel Deal, Europe-China Hybrid Vehicle Agreement, and Tariff Refunds
Q: What does this all mean? And what should we be tracking here over the coming days?
Bill Reinsch says the court-certified class could let qualifying importers recover emergency tariffs without separate lawsuits, particularly helping small businesses. The government may appeal, and some disputes remain over who receives refunds and which duties are covered.
U.S.-Russia Diesel Deal, Europe-China Hybrid Vehicle Agreement, and Tariff Refunds
Q: Can you get us up to speed on what's happened over the past week and how much of a difference this could actually make?
Scott Miller explains that diesel supply disruptions reflect specialized refining capacity and changing regional demand. The Russian diesel deal may offer some market relief, but the quantity is limited and its effect on prices is likely modest.
Angela Ellard on the 2026 WTO Public Forum
Q: Where do plurilaterals fit in—are they a threat to multilateralism or a path to progress?
Ellard explains plurilaterals can complement multilateralism by achieving broader ambitions with coalitions of the willing, but they must be integrated within the WTO rule book via multilateral consensus, otherwise they risk undermining the system.
Angela Ellard on the 2026 WTO Public Forum
Q: What are your thoughts on MFN in light of current debates and national security exceptions?
Ellard emphasizes MFN is not absolute and has many significant exceptions; there's a push to understand MFN's value while exploring how current rules may be inadequate for new challenges, suggesting a nuanced, not binary, approach to reform.
The Trump-Xi Summit and All Things China with Scott Kennedy
Q: What role do AI policy and AI safety talks play in this summit, and why is there a gap in dialogue?
Both sides acknowledge AI as a strategic area, but talks are stalled because each side is uncomfortable with what the other would want to discuss—industrial-scale model work versus restrictions on chips and data sharing. There is a call for domestic regulatory unification before meaningful dialogue can occur.

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What is The Trade Guys about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A policy-forward show that breaks down global trade dynamics, tariffs, and North American economics with a mix of data-driven analysis and practical implications for business. Episodes frequently feature CSIS experts, industry representatives, and prominent trade researchers to unpack how policy shifts—from Section 301 tariffs to USMCA negotiations—move markets, supply chains, and consumer prices. A standout aspect is the heavy emphasis on real-world impact for importers, exporters, and manufacturers, plus clear explanations of complex governance and enforcement mechanisms. This combination of rigorous policy context, accessible storytelling, and timely guest perspectives likely makes it valuable for professionals shaping or reacting to tra... more

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3. Dennis Darby
4. Zainab Usman
5. Dan Anthony
6. Alex Kisling
7. Diego Marroquín Bitar
8. Evan Brown

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