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Trade experts Scott Miller and Bill Reinsch break down the buzz around trade, how it affects policy, and how it impacts your day-to-day. The Trade Guys is a weekly podcast from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, D.C.

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On this episode, the Trade Guys unpack the latest White House executive order on customs enforcement. They also give an update on the Trump administration's use of Section 232 and Section 301 as tools in its broader tariff strategy.

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On this episode of the Trade Guys, Bill and Scott discuss the impacts of Chinese retaliatory tariffs on U.S. agricultural and other trade, the Trump administration's continued efforts to implement Section 301 tariffs, and the ongoing tariff refund li... more

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On this episode of the Trade Guys, Bill and Scott welcome Nasim Fussell, Vice President of Trade and International at Business Roundtable, to give an update on progress in USMCA renewal talks and what the business community is watching in North Ameri... more

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On this episode of the Trade Guys, Bill and Scott welcome Chad Bown (Reginald Jones Senior Fellow, Peterson Institute for International Economics) and Soumaya Keynes (Economics Columnist, Financial Times) to discuss the issues raised in their new boo... more

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Recent Guests

Nasim Fussell
Director of Trade and Investment at the Business Roundtable
Business Roundtable
Episode: Business Roundtable's Nasim Fussell Talks USMCA
Soumaya Keynes
Economic journalist; Financial Times columnist and podcaster
Financial Times
Episode: How to Win a Trade War with Chad Bown and Soumaya Keynes
Chad Bown
Economist; Peterson Institute senior fellow and Trade Talks host
Peterson Institute for International Economics
Episode: How to Win a Trade War with Chad Bown and Soumaya Keynes
Jennifer Safavian
President and CEO of Autos Drive America
Autos Drive America
Episode: USMCA Review and Autos with Jennifer Safavian
Ambassador Greer
U.S. Trade Representative participant in Ways and Means testimony
Office of the United States Trade Representative
Episode: Tariff Refund Process, Trade Over Aid, and USTR Greer Testifies
Kate Koren
Deputy Director of the CSIS Economics Program and Shoal Chair in International Business
CSIS
Episode: Talking Export Control Alignment, New 232s, and Trump's Budget Request with Kate Koren
Evan Brown
Guest host contributing to the discussion
CSIS
Episode: One Year After Liberation Day, Plus the E-Commerce Moratorium and New Chinese Investigations
Victor Cha
Distinguished University Professor at Georgetown University; President of the Geopolitics and Foreign Policy Department at CSIS
Georgetown University / CSIS
Episode: Victor Cha on China's Weaponization of Trade
Betsy Olim
Long-time importer and exporter, and host of Export Stories podcast
Export Stories
Episode: Trading Tales with the Export Stories Podcast

Hosts

Scott Miller
Host/Co-host focusing on trade policy analysis and discussion
Bill Reinsch
Co-host providing analysis and commentary on trade policy
Alex Kisling
Host introducing episodes and guiding discussion

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 313 ratings
  • Tops on trade

    The Trade Guys offer consistently high-quality analysis on the complex world of global trade. The hosts provide clear, thoughtful insights that make even the most technical issues accessible. Always informative, balanced, and engaging, The Trade Guys is an essential listen for anyone seeking to understand the forces shaping today’s global economy

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    5
    Foshin
    United States9 months ago
  • Selective memory- 11 Aug 2025

    After the communists won the civil war in China and established the PRC in 1959, the U.S. imposed a trade embargo on PRC and sanctioned any country that did not do the same, while PRC was experiencing famine to starve out the Chinese. Only a handful of countries like Canada exported food to PRC. The USA has always used trade as political weapon to maintain its supremacy, in ways that makes PRC ways childlike, when it isn’t dropping bombs.

    Look what the US is doing to Cuba now.

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    3
    tptkto3
    Canada10 months ago
  • Great show

    RIP Andrew - I thought it was a distasteful joke at first. Luckily, this shows content, along with Bill and Scott, will be able to maintain and still provide valuable information. Please find a different moderator, the interim one is… yikes

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    5
    consumer1156
    United Statesa year ago
  • Tin can and string

    I think there is some good stuff here…if their producer could get everyone better audio setups, especially in conference environments and for Scott. He often sounds as if he’s talking from one end of a metal tube. It’s exhausting to listen to, so often I just hit pause, and then end up never coming back…until the next interesting episode title, where, you guessed it, the audio for Scott is just the same…so I hit pause…and in this case, leave a rating and review.

    Production values matter!

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    3
    Refined Taster
    United Statesa year ago
  • Jingoistic rather than insightful

    This used to be so good, but lately has become (largely through its host) boorish and has lost is insightful analysis

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    Christian in Guildford
    United Kingdoma year ago

Listeners Say

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Guests and host banter are generally informative, though production and pacing receive mixed feedback.
Conciseness and the 20–30 minute format helps busy professionals stay engaged.
Listeners value clear, practical trade policy breakdowns from credible experts.

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#109
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Business Roundtable's Nasim Fussell Talks USMCA
Q: What was Nasim Fussell's takeaway from the most recent negotiations in Mexico City?
She noted that the round felt more traditional and that stakeholders were there together, which was positive, but the process was constrained by a lack of advance text and text proposals, particularly around rules of origin, leaving much to be worked out in subsequent rounds.
USMCA Review and Autos with Jennifer Safavian
Q: How do EVs factor into USMCA discussions and the broader auto industry's plans?
EVs have become a significant and evolving factor since the last negotiation, with varied implications by OEM; while some progress has been made in domestic production, the industry is watching how content and battery sourcing standards will be incorporated, and how these rules affect cross-border investment and market access.
USMCA Review and Autos with Jennifer Safavian
Q: Tell us about Autos Drive America and what your members think about USMCA.
Autos Drive America represents international automakers in the U.S., focusing on trade policy and a level playing field, and its members view USMCA as crucial due to the tightly integrated North American supply chains; they advocate for maintaining the trilateral structure and ensuring any changes are workable and narrowly tailored to preserve benefits.
Talking Export Control Alignment, New 232s, and Trump's Budget Request with Kate Koren
Q: Kate, what do you think the administration actually needs in terms of statutory authority, and what changes would you advise to make it more effective?
Kate outlines that the drafting is in a formative stage and emphasizes the need for clear statutory authority that can be implemented through markup with flexibility. She suggests balancing stronger control measures with multilateral diplomacy and ensuring that any enforcement mechanism is matched with robust analytical support to assess impact beyond a narrow set of technologies.
Canada Tariff Threats, Davos Roundup, and WTO Reform Proposals
Q: What are we talking about when it comes to MFN and what's prompting this from the US and EU?
Both the US and EU have submitted papers suggesting a rethink of the Most Favored Nation concept, emphasizing the need for reciprocity in trade agreements among nations.

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What is The Trade Guys about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A concise, current-tocus on global trade and policy, presented by two CSIS analysts who break down how policy shifts, tariffs, and regulatory actions ripple through industries and markets. Episodes often mix sharp policy analysis with practical implications for businesses, lawmakers, and supply chains, and frequently feature subject-matter guests from government, industry associations, and academia. The format tends to be accessible, data-driven, and grounded in real-world impact, with timely takes on USMCA, export controls, sanctions, and global economic dynamics. A standout aspect is the cadence: episodes are typically around a tight 20–30 minutes, aiming to translate complex topics into actionable insights for professionals planning arou... more

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2. Soumaya Keynes
3. Chad Bown
4. Jennifer Safavian
5. Ambassador Greer
6. Kate Koren
7. Evan Brown
8. Victor Cha

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