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The Foreign Affairs Interview

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Joe Biden

Foreign Affairs invites you to join its editor, Daniel Kurtz-Phelan, as he talks to influential thinkers and policymakers about the forces shaping the world. Whether the topic is the war in Ukraine, the United States’ competition with China, or the future of globalization, Foreign Affairs’ weekly podcast offers the kind of authoritative commentary and analysis that you can find in the magazine and... more

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The Iran war may be coming to an end, as Washington and Tehran prepare to sign a framework agreement later this week. That deal should reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the blockade of Iranian ports, even as it leaves unresolved the issues that bro... more

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U.S. President Donald Trump has insisted that he will have the “honor of taking Cuba.” Although the administration has not specified what that might mean, following interventions in Venezuela and Iran over the past six months, there is reason to take... more

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Six months ago, Philip Gordon and Mara Karlin wrote an essay in Foreign Affairs about the plight of the United States’ allies in U.S. President Donald Trump’s second term. What was surprising, they argued, was not the administration’s cajoling and th... more

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The world today is more dangerous and more violent than it’s been at any time since 1945. States everywhere have jettisoned commitments to cooperation and opted for aggression. The so-called rules-based order seems to have come apart. Yet the interna... more

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Recent Guests

Michael Bustamante
Chair of Cuba and Cuban American Studies at the University of Miami
University of Miami
Episode: Is Cuba Next? A Conversation With Michael J. Bustamante and Ricardo Zuniga
Ricardo Zuniga
Longtime U.S. official who served at the U.S. Embassy in Havana and helped lead talks with Cuba
Former U.S. government official
Episode: Is Cuba Next? A Conversation With Michael J. Bustamante and Ricardo Zuniga
Philip Gordon
Former National Security Advisor to Vice President Kamala Harris
Foreign Affairs (interview subject)
Episode: Are America’s Allies Finally Learning to Deal With Trump? A Conversation With Philip H. Gordon and Mara Karlin
Thant Myint-U
Historian and author, subject of The Peacemaker
Author, Historian
Episode: How to Prevent the Next World War: A Conversation With Thant Myint-U
Wess Mitchell
Former Assistant Secretary of State for Europe under the Trump administration
Independent/Policy Think Tank mentions in episode
Episode: Does Trump Have a Strategy? A Conversation With A. Wess Mitchell
Orville Schell
Chronicler of U.S.-China relations; observer and commentator
Not explicitly stated in transcript
Episode: The View From the Front Row of the Trump-Xi Summit: A Conversation With Orville Schell
Nicholas Burns
A longtime American diplomat who served as ambassador to China until January 2025
U.S. Department of State
Episode: When Two Superpowers Meet: A Conversation With Nicholas Burns
Fiona Hill
Scholar and former NSC official; close observer of Putin and Trump
Episode: Trump, Putin, and Genghis Khan: A Conversation With Fiona Hill
Victor Cha
Analyst and author on North Korea policy
Foreign Affairs (author of new essay)
Episode: Learning to Live With a Nuclear North Korea

Host

Dan Kurtz-Phelan
Host of The Foreign Affairs Interview

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 1.6k ratings
  • Trump Apologists

    What role should Trump apologists play dialogues moving forward? While it’s been unfortunate to observe the endless parade of human failings that have led to the Trump era, it might be helpful to initiate a reset. First, we have lots of problems, seemingly intractable. Acknowledging that the support of a moronic, criminal madman is yet another symptom of our problems, not a solution, is a good place to start. I look forward to a future where more people engage is reasonable, honest conversation... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    #*#^#+
    United Statesa month ago
  • A Wess Mitchell interview

    Dan, my man, it took way too long for you to push back on the absolute lunacy of this man’s statements. I understand for journalistic reasons it’s good to allow these types of deranged cooks to embarrass themselves by letting them just be honest, but we’re 10 years into this mess and you’re in a position to call them out for their absolutely unhinged positions. I could hear in your voice you were holding back, but please challenge these types on the spot every opportunity you get. Whether or no... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CledisBoozer
    United Statesa month ago
  • Dan is great!

    This podcast has become a must listen for me. Dan is a superb interviewer, he has a the credentials and knowledge to be egotistical and insert himself in the interviews, but instead he uses very well-crafted, economical questions to get the best from his guests. I produce podcasts and I know how hard this is! Very poised.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    blobbly56
    Australiaa month ago
  • Insightful!

    Such insightful episodes on foreign policy and affairs.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    S.Raf.
    New Zealanda month ago
  • Deep expertise in an engaging format

    Amid a desert of pretenders flogging ill-informed opinions, Foreign Affairs is an emerald oasis of real expertise in foreign relations strategy, policy, personalities and statecraft. I am addicted to Foreign Affairs podcast and try never to miss an episode. I would also recommend The Long Game for those with similar interests.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    citizen303
    United States2 months ago

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fans call it essential listening for staying informed on global affairs
audience appreciates long-form, theory-informed discussion with senior policymakers
listener feedback highlights depth, credibility, and nonpartisan analysis from experts
reviews indicate strong perception of high-quality, data-driven perspectives with occasional critiques of perceived bias

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Are America’s Allies Finally Learning to Deal With Trump? A Conversation With Philip H. Gordon and Mara Karlin
Q: What would minimally be necessary from a U.S. standpoint to reach a deal on Iran that could be acceptable to both sides?
A credible set of nuclear constraints combined with a practical framework for sanctions relief and regional security arrangements, while ensuring that any agreement returns to verifiable limits on enrichment and missiles and avoids a total collapse in the Strait of Hormuz as a broader strategic concession.
Are America’s Allies Finally Learning to Deal With Trump? A Conversation With Philip H. Gordon and Mara Karlin
Q: Mara, if Phil is right that this represents the Asian version of a Greenland moment, what might Asian allies do in response?
Asian allies might pursue mini-lateral security arrangements, increase defense spending, and seek extended deterrence assurances or regional alliances to counter perceived U.S. unpredictability, while also coordinating with Europe on shared priorities like naval freedom of navigation.
Is Cuba Next? A Conversation With Michael J. Bustamante and Ricardo Zuniga
Q: How did the Obama-era approach differ from later policies, and what lessons remain relevant?
Obama's approach aimed to change conditions for Cuban citizens through engagement and selective economic openings rather than regime change, which ultimately created a period of greater openness and interest from investors. The lesson is that a calibrated, people-centered strategy can yield change without toppling the regime, though challenges and backsliding require careful, patient diplomacy.
Is Cuba Next? A Conversation With Michael J. Bustamante and Ricardo Zuniga
Q: What are the two main off-ramps or paths to avoid further deterioration in Cuba-US relations?
The guests outline a diplomatic track focused on credible messaging from Washington about concrete, achievable asks and a willingness to unlock sanctions to enable Cuban economic reforms, paired with internal preparations in the U.S. to support reformers in Cuba and facilitate a practical, non-destructive path toward greater openness.
How to Prevent the Next World War: A Conversation With Thant Myint-U
Q: What should the UN Secretary General do in times of rising great power tensions, like a China–US competition?
The Secretary General should remain present and active, project dynamism, and engage directly with leaders across big powers and key regions to create space for diplomacy, even if not all efforts succeed.

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A high-level, globally focused interview format that brings expert voices—diplomats, scholars, policymakers, and journalists—into long-form conversations about geopolitics, strategy, and major security challenges. Episodes frequently explore U.S.-China competition, the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Iran, the Middle East, and Europe's role in a multipolar world, often through historical context, policy analysis, and forward-looking scenarios. The show stands out for its deep-dive, theory-informed discussions with senior figures and its ability to connect global developments to broader strategic implications. Listeners are likely decision-makers and professionals in international affairs seeking credible, data-driven perspectives and nuanced debat... more

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8. Fiona Hill

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