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Broken Benefits

Lee Lewis
Healthcare
Health Care
Healthcare Costs
Employee Benefits
Health Care Policy
Primary Care
Analytics In Employee Benefits
Direct Contracting
Technology In Health Care
Health Care Costs
Mastercard
Customer Experience
Metabolic Syndrome
HTA
Lowe's
Glp-1 Treatments
TPA
Pharmacy Benefit Managers
Transparency In Healthcare Pricing
High-Cost Therapies and Drugs

Whether you are the benefits manager or CEO of your organization, one of the biggest drivers of organizational performance, that most get totally wrong, is the health and benefits strategy. We spend billions on benefits, yet healthcare is unaffordable and complicated. More than half of Americans don't even take their paid vacation, yet people are burning out faster than ever and remote work is scr... more

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Adam Stavisky spent years running benefits for the largest private workforce in the country, overseeing the largest private health plan in the world along with a massive 401(k) and leave of absence program. In this episode, Lee sits down with Adam to... more

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What happens when a benefits leader stops accepting rising healthcare costs as inevitable?

For Paul Dumas, the answer was simple: start taking control.

A longtime CHRO, Paul had spent decades approaching benefits much like many other employers do. ... more

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For years, employee benefits have been viewed as an unavoidable expense. Scott Kirschner believes that's the wrong way to look at them.

In this episode of Broken Benefits, Lee Lewis sits down with one of the industry's most respected benefits leader... more

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What happens when a practicing physician steps into the world of employee benefits?

In this episode of Broken Benefits, Lee Lewis sits down with Dr. Lowell Fernander, a physician-turned-benefits executive whose career has taken him from healthcare s... more

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Recent Guests

Paul Dumas
Chief Human Resources Officer at Dooley Health (provider group)
Dooley Health
Episode: Stop Paying. Start Leading: Taking Control of Healthcare Strategy (Feat: Paul Dumas)
Scott Kirschner
Health plan leader who managed a large health plan and profit dynamics within a property management company
Grey Star (formerly)
Episode: The Business Case for Better Benefits (Feat: Scott Kirschner)
Lowell Fernander
CEO/Chief Medical Officer, Rocket group of companies; physician and health benefits innovator
Rocket
Episode: Beyond Borders: What Global Healthcare Can Teach Employers (Feat: Dr. Lowell Fernander)
Brian Duclos
Benefits executive with accounting background
Episode: From Accounting to Innovation: A Different Mindset for Better Benefits (Feat: Brian Duclos)
Chris Deacon
Former deputy attorney general in New Jersey; led a $4 billion state health fund
Judy Group
Episode: No More Excuses: A Hard Look at Healthcare Reform (Feat: Chris Deacon)
Milt Ezzard
Former benefits executive known for testing new concepts and technology
Activision Blizzard (former); healthcare employer benefits executive
Episode: Beyond the Status Quo: Unlocking Opportunity in Benefits & Healthcare (Feat: Milt Ezzard)
Todd Bisping
Industry-leading innovator in healthcare benefits; long-time executive focused on flat-trend healthcare,
Caterpillar
Episode: Breaking the Trend: How Innovation Kept Healthcare Costs Flat for Decades (Feat: Todd Bisping)
Jason Dinerman
Industry innovator who led health care and total rewards at Mastercard and later pursued product development in the health care vertical
Mastercard
Episode: Creating Value and Visibility For Your Operation (Feat: Jason Dinerman)
Matt Eurey
Former head of benefits at Lowe's and Time Warner Cable; now at Carrom Health
Carrom Health
Episode: Cutting Through the Noise in Employer Healthcare Decisions (Feat: Matt Eurey)

Host

Lee Lewis
Host of Broken Benefits

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 22 ratings
  • Proven solution provider talks using facts

    Outstanding podcast with information that is useful and fact based. 10/10

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    spoiledbrat
    United States4 years ago
  • One of the smartest experts in the industry

    Lee is one of the foremost experts in the health insurance industry. His work with some of the largest companies in America has impacted millions of lives. This podcast sheds a much-needed spotlight on those doing amazing work to improve the healthcare in the U.S.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AndyNeary
    United States4 years ago
  • Love the pod!

    Finally a healrh benefits podcast that’s worth listening to and feeds me tangible knowledge. Excited for future interviews.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tenminutes
    United States4 years ago
  • Yes to this topic + show + host

    So happy Lee launched this show — such a needed conversation and insight. He is the kind of show host that brings the questions and perspective to make a complicated topic way more understandable. Excited for more!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    worthfullchristine
    United States4 years ago

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Outstanding podcast with information that is useful and fact based.
The host clarifies complex topics with thoughtful questions and perspectives, making the topic accessible for future interviews.
Lee is recognized as a leading expert in health insurance, and the show spotlights impactful work improving U.S. healthcare.
Finally a health benefits podcast that delivers tangible knowledge.

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The Business Case for Better Benefits (Feat: Scott Kirschner)
Q: Tell us a little bit about Grey Star and how fixed budgeting created a different dynamic for a benefits leader.
Grey Star managed thousands of properties with a fixed per-employee health plan contribution, creating a surplus that, when properly controlled, allowed the company to fund strategic improvements without increasing annual lay-offs or deferring investments. This required modernizing systems, expanding care networks, and using data to steer vendor and program choices, all while keeping the focus on long-term health outcomes and cost discipline.
Beyond Borders: What Global Healthcare Can Teach Employers (Feat: Dr. Lowell Fernander)
Q: What are the scenarios where on-site clinics make sense, and where do they not?
On-site clinics work best with a concentrated hub of employees and a leadership that supports the model. Dispersed or highly hybrid workforces may not see ROI unless there is a critical mass and a strong value proposition, like integrated services and digital care options.
Beyond Borders: What Global Healthcare Can Teach Employers (Feat: Dr. Lowell Fernander)
Q: How should benefits executives think about primary care as an investment and strategy?
Investing in primary care reduces overall costs by lowering entry barriers to care, steering patients away from emergency rooms for common conditions, and enabling better management of high-cost conditions through integrated services and on-site or closely connected care networks.
Beyond Borders: What Global Healthcare Can Teach Employers (Feat: Dr. Lowell Fernander)
Q: What are the pros and cons of health care in the US versus Europe from your perspective as a clinician turned benefits leader?
The US and Europe both have challenges, but Europe generally treats healthcare as a right with universal coverage, while the US approach is more fragmented. The key is how care is delivered and accessed, not merely the level of overall care.
From Accounting to Innovation: A Different Mindset for Better Benefits (Feat: Brian Duclos)
Q: Can you walk us through your process for data-driven plan design and how you secure buy-in?
Start with clear data access, identify the top problems, prioritize a couple of opportunities, and then assemble smart people to design and implement. Build trust through transparency and solving real problems, not just presenting numbers.

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A practical, data-driven show focused on health benefits and employer offloading costs, ROI, and employee value. Across episodes, listeners hear how large organizations redesign benefits programs, negotiate pricing, and deploy innovative delivery models—ranging from on-site clinics and integrated care to value-based networks and analytics-led governance. Notable themes include cost containment, transparent pricing, better data and engagement, and the strategic role of benefits in business performance. A recurring strength is inviting experienced CHROs, policy experts, and benefits leaders to share real-world lessons, measurable outcomes, and scalable playbooks that listeners can adapt in their own organizations.

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Recent guests on Broken Benefits include:

1. Paul Dumas
2. Scott Kirschner
3. Lowell Fernander
4. Brian Duclos
5. Chris Deacon
6. Milt Ezzard
7. Todd Bisping
8. Jason Dinerman

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