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Relentless Health Value

Stacey Richter
Healthcare Costs
Patient Care
Value-Based Care
Primary Care
Self-Insurance
Self-Insured Employers
Direct Contracting
Healthcare
Trust
Healthcare Benefits
Pharmacy Benefit Managers
Healthcare Value
Maternal Health
Pharmaceutical Industry
Medicare Advantage
Glp-1
Healthcare Transparency
Brokers
Claims Wire
High-Cost Claimants

Welcome to Relentless Health Value, the podcast for those working in the belly of the beast to fix our fundamentally broken healthcare system. If you are a self-insured employer, plan sponsor, benefits consultant, clinician, a C-suite executive or anyone in the business of healthcare tired of the "transformational theater" and marketing fluff, you have found your tribe. The U.S. healthcare system ... more

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Latest Episodes

How the 340B Drug Discount Program Quietly Raises Costs for Self-Insured Employers. Episode 527.

Why should a self-insured employer care about the 340B charity program? That's the single question Stacey Richter puts to Shawn Gremminger, president a... more

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How Discount Theater and Generic Compliance Ratios Quietly Overcharge Patients and Employers. Episode 526.

Mark Cuban, co-founder of Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company, and Cora Opsahl, managing director of Peterson Health Analytics and former direc... more

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Four Questions Plan Sponsors Should Ask Before Choosing PMPM or Fee-for-Service. Episode 525.

This episode is a tangent that never made it into the final cut of Stacey Richter's original conversation with Cristin Dickerson, MD, founding partner of ... more

John Quinn, founder and CEO of Wellnecity, joins Stacey Richter in episode 524 for an outtake from their conversation last fall on rethinking how self-insured employers build their provider networks. Rather than treating the network as one big, undif... more

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John Quinn
CEO of Wellnecity, healthcare executive discussing direct contracting and pods of care
Wellnecity
Episode: Beating Provider Network Pricing Games by Thinking About Buying Healthcare Like a Manufacturer Supply Chain, With John Quinn
Dr. Suhas Gondi
Attending physician; Chief Medical Officer at Health Strategy
Health Strategy
Episode: The Sleeping Giants of Healthcare—Why Self-insured Employers and Clinicians Keep Missing Each Other, With Suhas Gondi, MD, MBA. EP523
Dr. Cristin Dickerson
Guest on the episode; physician
Episode: The Sleeping Giants of Healthcare—Why Self-insured Employers and Clinicians Keep Missing Each Other, With Suhas Gondi, MD, MBA. EP523
Andrew Tsang
Independent healthcare analyst who has written about healthcare markets and administration
Episode: How Revenue Cycle Management (RCM) Became an Over $200 Billion Healthcare Hot Potato, With Andrew Tsang. EP521
Dr. Stan Schwartz
Dr. Stan Schwartz from ZERO.health
Episode: How Revenue Cycle Management (RCM) Became an Over $200 Billion Healthcare Hot Potato, With Andrew Tsang. EP521
Bryce Platt
Health policy researcher/analyst
Self-described expert on affordability and PBMs
Episode: Cash-Pay Generic Drugs Are a Functioning Market in Healthcare—Policymakers Beware and Be Careful. EP520
Luke Slendy
Policy thinker on pharmaceutical contracts
Industry commentator
Episode: Cash-Pay Generic Drugs Are a Functioning Market in Healthcare—Policymakers Beware and Be Careful. EP520
Benjamin Jolly
Pharmacist in Utah
Independent pharmacist
Episode: Cash-Pay Generic Drugs Are a Functioning Market in Healthcare—Policymakers Beware and Be Careful. EP520
Lisa Rosenbaum
Cardiologist; writer-in-residence at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center; NEJM correspondent
New England Journal of Medicine / BIDMC
Episode: Cognitive Atrophy and Referral Incentives Breaking Primary Care, With Lisa Rosenbaum, MD (EP519)

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Stacey Richter
Host of Relentless Health Value

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 366 ratings
  • Longtime fan, first time guest!

    Just look at the reviews for yourself - over 500 episodes and years of consistency. The RHV podcast and tribe are amazing at giving practical insights.

    A lot of discussion around healthcare reform is theoretical or wishful thinking. It makes me feel helpless, like I'm waiting for someone else to pull the levers of change.

    But not when I listen to the Relentless Health Value Podcast.

    Every time I listen to it, I feel like I can understand complex healthcare terrain without flattening it into ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Health is Other People
    United Statesa month ago
  • The rich get richer

    An echo chamber for CEOs and other out of touch execs that care about money and not care or making healthcare a sustainable career choice for providers.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    NOT A CEO 2
    United Statesa year ago
  • Highly Recommend!

    Relentless Health Value with Stacey Richter is hands down one of the best healthcare podcasts out there. Stacey has a unique talent for making complex topics clear and practical, and every episode is packed with valuable insights you can actually use. If you care about healthcare transparency, smarter plan management, or just want to keep up with what’s really happening in the industry, this podcast is a must listen. Highly recommended!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kcarle
    United Statesa year ago
  • A must listen for plan sponsors

    This podcast is incredibly helpful for anyone looking to become a more effective plan sponsor. Stacey asks insightful questions, and her guests are always engaging, industry experts. Topics that I previously found dry or difficult to understand are presented in a way that’s clear, digestible, and even empowering. I discovered this podcast at the perfect time in my life—it’s given me the confidence I need for my next job opportunity.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kharding324
    United Statesa year ago
  • Must Listen Healthcare Podcast!

    Relentless Health Value is the #1 podcast for anyone wanting to be part of the solution to fixing healthcare and insurance. MD to Insurance broker will find value in being part of the RHV tribe.

    No one person has all the answers, but Stacey Richter has allowed listeners and guests to collectively move the conversation forward in practical ways. Thank you for all your work Stacey!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Matt McQuide
    United Statesa year ago

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Audience praise the depth of analysis and ability to translate complex topics into actionable takeaways.
Strong sense of community and trust in the host's expertise and integrity.
Guests are high-caliber experts bringing diverse perspectives across policy, economics, and clinical practice.
The host and guests are consistently insightful and practical, helping listeners understand healthcare economics without oversimplification.

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How Revenue Cycle Management (RCM) Became an Over $200 Billion Healthcare Hot Potato, With Andrew Tsang. EP521
Q: What would you consider the simplest takeaway for listeners about why RCM matters so much?
RCM is not a back-office afterthought; it is a front-door for access and a major driver of cost and patient experience, shaping incentives across the entire health care ecosystem and often determining who finally bears the cost for high-value or high-cost therapies.
How Revenue Cycle Management (RCM) Became an Over $200 Billion Healthcare Hot Potato, With Andrew Tsang. EP521
Q: If you are going to explain what revenue cycle management is just for our friends and family here, how would you do that?
RCM is the end-to-end mechanism for how health care gets paid, covering front-end eligibility and pre-encounter checks, the clinical encounter, coding, and the back-end claims processing, denial handling, and write-offs; in practice it is a sprawling, interdependent system that determines cash flow and patient experience.
How GoodRx Actually Makes Money: PBMs, Cash Prices, and Pharmacy Contracts, With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA (EP522)
Q: Hi Stacey, this is Arielle Bose from EHD Insurance, big fan of the podcast. We were talking about GoodRx the other day, and it occurred to me that I'm not exactly clear about how they make money.
Ge Bai explains that GoodRx monetizes the price dysfunction in pharmacy pricing by routing cash-pay customers through a network of PBMs that set and monitor price floors; pharmacies set high list prices to preserve margins, and GoodRx earns revenue through PBM-adjudication fees when customers pay cash via their platform.
How Do You Explain the Difference Between an ASO Vendor and a TPA? With Claire Brockbank. Episode 518
Q: How best to explain to an employer the difference between what is an ASO and what is a TPA?
Claire Brockbank clarifies that an ASO typically operates with its own network and bears some resistance to carved-out arrangements, while a TPA mainly handles claims processing and administrative tasks without owning a network, making it easier to accommodate direct contracts and carve-outs for the employer.
The 7.7% Wake-Up Call: A Roadmap to Align Finance Teams With Non-complacent Benefit Design, With Patrick Nelli. EP509
Q: If you are thinking about the roadmap that you might lay out here, what would be your first step?
Open the conversation with benefit leaders and frame the discussion in terms of economics so finance and benefits speak the same language, then establish a forecast that captures true healthcare inflation well above CPI.

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The show relentlessly examines the economics and incentives shaping the U.S. healthcare system, with a focus on self-insured employers, plan sponsors, and the market dynamics behind pricing, contracts, and access. Episodes demystify complex topics like PBM contracts, direct contracting, cash-pay markets, and revenue-cycle mechanics, often through practical frameworks and concrete case studies. The host consistently invites practitioners and policy-minded experts to unpack systemic frictions, propose tangible improvements, and translate wonky theory into actionable guidance for improving patient value and reducing waste. A notable strength is connecting frontline cost pressures to broader market dynamics, offering listeners clear takeaways f... more

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Recent guests on Relentless Health Value include:

1. John Quinn
2. Dr. Suhas Gondi
3. Dr. Cristin Dickerson
4. Andrew Tsang
5. Dr. Stan Schwartz
6. Bryce Platt
7. Luke Slendy
8. Benjamin Jolly

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