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Trial Tested: A Podcast by the American College of Trial Lawyers presents enlightening discussions about life and law through interviews with prominent trial lawyers and significant figures in the world of trial law. From lead counsel in historic cases to justices of the court, you will hear from the people who have made an impact in the courtroom – and in life. Hosted by Fellows of the College, T... more

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In this episode of Trial Tested, Greg Craig traces his journey from achieving his law degree at Yale Law School – where classmates included Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton – to a career defined by landmark trials and public service. Early in ... more

The College’s 75th President, Rick Deane, sits down with host Amy Gunn in this special Presidents’ Day episode of Trial Tested. Deane reflects on the encouragement of his grandmother and his early fascination with the law, sparked by watching Perry M... more

Trial lawyers live in a constant state of problem-solving, competition, and high stakes – exactly the kind of environment that can quietly push the brain into chronic fight-or-flight. In this episode, host Amy Gunn sits down with University of Denver... more

Host Vince Citro welcomes San Francisco attorney Jim Brosnahan to discuss a career shaped by formative childhood illness, early reading struggles, and an outsider’s sense of empathy. He describes his path from Boston College athlete to Harvard Law Sc... more

Judge William Alsup of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California joins host Renée Rothauge to reflect on how his civil rights-era upbringing in Mississippi, his clerkship for U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas – where... more

In this episode, Dave Thomas interviews Bart Dalton, former Delaware Chief Deputy Attorney General and 67th President of the American College of Trial Lawyers. Dalton reflects on his early career as a prosecutor, emphasizing how mistakes provide valu... more

Chicago attorney Chet Kamin joins host Amy Gunn to discuss his role in the landmark Stamler v. Willis litigation, which helped bring about the end of the House Un-American Activities Committee. Arguing that Dr. Jeremiah Stamler was targeted for his p... more

Host Vince Citro welcomes Benjamin Chew, an acclaimed trial lawyer perhaps best known for representing Johnny Depp in the highly publicized defamation trial against Amber Heard. In this in-depth interview, Chew discusses his work on complex commercia... more

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Greg Craig
Former White House counsel, fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers
Foley and Hoag (Senior Counsel); former White House Counsel to President Obama
Episode: S14E1: Defending Presidents and Controversial Clients with Greg Craig
Dr. Debra Austin
Law professor and author specializing in lawyer well-being
University of Denver Sturm School of Law
Episode: S13E5: The Science of Lawyer Wellbeing with Dr. Debra Austin
Bart Dalton
A preeminent trial lawyer based in Delaware and the 67th president of the American College of Trial Lawyers.
American College of Trial Lawyers
Episode: S13E2: Protecting Children, Driving Reform and Providing Justice: An Interview with Bart Dalton
Benjamin Chew
A partner at Shepherd Mullen, recognized for his litigation expertise in high-profile cases.
Shepherd Mullen
Episode: S12E6: Benjamin Chew on High-Profile Trials, Media Scrutiny, and Building Trial Experience
Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.
Former U.S. Supreme Court Justice and influential legal thinker
Episode: S12E5: Bill Barton – The Lawyer Who Took on the Boy Scouts and Brought Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes to Life
Mona Duckett
Senior partner in the Edmonton-based criminal law firm of Dawson, Duckett, Garcia, and Johnson
Dawson, Duckett, Garcia, and Johnson
Episode: S12E2: Representing the Vulnerable: Criminal Defense with Mona Duckett
Peter Canellos
Managing editor of Politico and former executive editor
Politico
Episode: S12E1: Words That Matter: A Conversation on Dissent and Journalism with Politico’s Peter Canellos
Sheila Block
Celebrated Canadian litigator, member of the Order of Canada, and fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers
Torys LLP
Episode: S11E3: Breaking Barriers and Pursuing Justice with Sheila Block
E. Martin Estrada
Former United States Attorney for the Central District of California
Munger Tolles & Olson
Episode: S11E1: Public Service and High-Stakes Cases: A Conversation with E. Martin Estrada

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Renée Rothauge
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S14E1: Defending Presidents and Controversial Clients with Greg Craig
Q: How did your experience in public defense inform your later work in high-profile political cases like the Clinton impeachment?
The core trial skills—jury/assembly management, cross-examination, and strategic witness selection—translated to a legislative context, guiding how to present complex factual and legal issues to persuade a large, diverse body of decision-makers.
S14E1: Defending Presidents and Controversial Clients with Greg Craig
Q: What was it like defending John Hinckley in a high-profile case involving the attempted assassination of a president?
The defense faced intense evidentiary battles, including suppression of improvised testimony from FBI and Secret Service, a complicated mental health defense, and the strategic challenge of presenting a case in a way that could survive appellate scrutiny, ultimately resulting in a not guilty by reason of insanity verdict.
S13E5: The Science of Lawyer Wellbeing with Dr. Debra Austin
Q: What advice would you give to folks about when it's time to seek professional help?
It's important to normalize seeking therapy as a tool for processing difficult emotions and situations; it can be beneficial for anyone, including law students and professionals dealing with stress.
S13E5: The Science of Lawyer Wellbeing with Dr. Debra Austin
Q: What are some of the most important keys to keeping the hippocampus healthy and to keeping our minds and bodies healthy?
Engaging in nature therapy, practicing gratitude, and interacting with pets can lower stress hormones and improve cognitive health.
S13E5: The Science of Lawyer Wellbeing with Dr. Debra Austin
Q: What compelled you to write a book essentially about brain science?
My concern about understanding stress and its effects on cognition stemmed from observing how anger impacts IQ; this led me to study neuroscience to help law students manage their stress better.

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