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Wrestling Payments

NEACH
Fintech Partnerships
Fintech
Artificial Intelligence
Stablecoins
Fednow
First-Party Fraud
Tokenized Deposits
Real Time Payments Network
Core Renewals
Banks
ISO 20022
Genius Act
Embedded Payments
Open Banking
Governance
NACHA Rules
Wire Transfers
ACH
Cross-Border Payments
National Trust Bank Charter

Wrestling Payments is a podcast for professionals working at banks, credit unions, and FinTechs who are responsible for managing ACH and payment operations. In each episode, members of NEACH guide conversations to help professionals examine the challenges of modernizing payment operations. Ultimately, the stories uncovered through guest interviews and solo episodes will highlight industry trends a... more

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A new weekly format: ten stories across two weeks, with an eye on what each one means in New England. Stablecoin reserves as a deposit category you can compete for, a Treasury check ring that... more

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Sean Carter, Caitlin Mullins-Smith, and Averee Jimenez dig into where ACH compliance breaks down in practice: origination-side fraud monitoring that nobody set up, web entries treated by label instea... more

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Joe Casali uses this solo episode to argue that the proposed Stop Payments Fraud Act of 2026 is a useful but limited step against check fraud. He compares today’s check fraud problem ... more

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In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali welcomes David Dwumah, Founder & CEO of OurFiin and faculty member at the WPI Business School, for a conversation about one of... more

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Caitlin Mullins
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Averee Jimenez
Key advisor in the field
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David Dwumah
FinTech founder focused on governance and tokenized payments
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Episode: Governance Before Technology: A Framework for Stablecoins and Tokenized Deposits with Guest David Dwumah
Nanci McKenzie
Payments expert, Capital One
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Sean Carter
President and CEO of NEACH and NPG
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Episode: One Employee, Five Branches: The Wire Room Reality
Jordan Bennett
Senior Director of ACH Network Risk Management
NEACH/ACH Network Risk Management
Episode: Fighting Back Against Credit Push Fraud: New ACH Rules for Originators
Phil Robbins
Executive in strategy/organization at The Clearing House
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Episode: Conversations from The Clearing House Conference
Mickey Marshall
Vice President and Regulatory Council at the Independent Community Bankers of America (ICBA)
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Episode: The OCC Charter Loophole: An Illegal Hold on Community Banking?
Steve Wasserman
Executive with Vments, longtime payments expert
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Episode: Building a Stablecoin Strategy: Steve Wasserman and Larry Pruss Weigh In

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 16 ratings
  • Real Talk for Payments Pros

    A must listen for anyone serious about payments, Fintech, and banking. Honest, insightful, impact with real world strategies to help you lead in the fast changing financial landscape.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LizLondon88
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great resource

    A good resource to listen and stay up to date on current rules and changes in the payments industry. Thank you NEACH!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kayla novacek lamb
    United States3 years ago
  • Useful information!

    Very helpful in the roadmap of payments and making sure controls are in place! Always appreciate these sessions!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Twainwright22
    United States3 years ago
  • Easy Digestible Information

    Quick, easy to digest information by knowledgeable NEACH staff and guests.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    GinMarMar
    United States3 years ago
  • Payments nerds rejoice

    An educational way for me to consume payment info on my commute!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Al68519
    United States3 years ago

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Content helps payments nerds stay informed about industry shifts.
Audience notes it's concise and educational for commutes.
Great resource for staying up to date on rules and changes in payments.
Info is easy to digest and useful for roadmap planning and controls.
Real Talk for Payments Pros provides honest, insightful, real-world strategies for payments pros.

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Fighting Back Against Credit Push Fraud: New ACH Rules for Originators
Q: But can you frame, when we talk about fraud, what things are we trying to fight against?
The industry is moving from targeting traditional debit fraud to focusing on social-engineering schemes, such as vendor impersonation and business email compromise, where fraudsters manipulate trusted parties into changing payment details or authorizing transfers. The goal is to slow or stop these changes and require verification and friction to prevent loss.
True Crime Fighters: Why Your Ops Team Is on the Front Line
Q: What can financial institutions do to mitigate first-party fraud today?
Institutions should enhance fraud monitoring capabilities across RDFI and ODFI, implement behavioral analytics, tighten the account opening controls, and use technology to flag unusual patterns and validate transactions before they complete.
True Crime Fighters: Why Your Ops Team Is on the Front Line
Q: What is first-party fraud, and how does it differ from authorized push fraud?
First-party fraud involves a legitimate, real person who intends to deceive a company or bank to obtain funds, whereas authorized push fraud generally involves the account holder being coerced or misled into sending money to a fraudulent recipient; the two can look similar until you analyze intent and the source of funds.
One Employee, Five Branches: The Wire Room Reality
Q: What was the purpose of the wire operation survey and the work you were doing with NPG?
The goal was to understand why banks experience delays and exceptions in wire processing, identify system and process bottlenecks, and share benchmark insights from a broader network to help institutions improve efficiency and reduce risk.
Governance Before Technology: A Framework for Stablecoins and Tokenized Deposits with Guest David Dwumah
Q: What is the role of history in shaping today's payment innovations, according to your perspective?
History demonstrates that innovations typically complement rather than completely replace existing methods. A dual track of traditional rails and new tokenized systems is common, and governance must ensure interoperability and trust across both rails.

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What is Wrestling Payments about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A pragmatic show focused on payments operations for banks, credit unions, and fintechs. Episodes regularly dissect governance, regulation, real-time rails, and the evolving infrastructure around ACH, FedNow, stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and embedded payments, often through practitioner-led discussions and policy-context analyses. Notable strengths include a practical framework mindset (governance, strategy, technology, people/processes), clear industry pragmatism, and guests who bring real-world experience from regulatory bodies, major rails, and fintechs. The program tends to balance strategic insights with concrete use cases, making it valuable for operators implementing modernization while navigating compliance and vendor negotiation... more

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1. Caitlin Mullins
2. Averee Jimenez
3. David Dwumah
4. Nanci McKenzie
5. Sean Carter
6. Jordan Bennett
7. Phil Robbins
8. Mickey Marshall

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