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Wrestling Payments

NEACH
Fintech Partnerships
Artificial Intelligence
Fintech
Open Banking
Banks
Real Time Payments Network
Embedded Payments
Core Renewals
Stablecoins
Fednow
ISO 20022
Cross-Border Payments
National Trust Bank Charter
Stable Coins
Pidgin
Third-Party Risk Management
Aeropay
Check Fraud
Cross-Channel Risk
Genius Act

Wrestling Payments is a podcast for professionals working at banks, credit unions, and FinTechs who are responsible for managing ACH and payment operations. In each episode, members of NEACH guide conversations to help professionals examine the challenges of modernizing payment operations. Ultimately, the stories uncovered through guest interviews and solo episodes will highlight industry trends a... more

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Understanding the Future of Fintech Regulation: The Cage Match BeginsIn this episode of Wrestling Payments, Joe Casali dives into the recent executive order that aims to overhaul fintech regulation. ... more

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The Federal Reserve just proposed changes to Regulation J that would allow FedNow participants to designate intermediary banks — opening the door for cross-border payments over F... more

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In this episode of Wrestling Payments, host Joe Casali sits down with Phil Robin, SVP of Strategy at The Clearing House. They explore how financial institutions are approaching the ch... more

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Wrestling Payments kicks off 2026 with a trip to the Hill. Host Joe Casali sits down with William Sullivan, Associate Managing Director of Government and Industry Relations at Nacha,... more

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Recent Guests

Phil Robbins
Executive in strategy/organization at The Clearing House
The Clearing House
Episode: Conversations from The Clearing House Conference
Mickey Marshall
Vice President and Regulatory Council at the Independent Community Bankers of America (ICBA)
ICBA
Episode: The OCC Charter Loophole: An Illegal Hold on Community Banking?
Steve Wasserman
Executive with Vments, longtime payments expert
Vments
Episode: Building a Stablecoin Strategy: Steve Wasserman and Larry Pruss Weigh In
Larry Pruss
Consultant in emerging disruptive payments
Strategic Resource Management
Episode: Building a Stablecoin Strategy: Steve Wasserman and Larry Pruss Weigh In
Rich Carty
Representative of Remedy, a consulting group that assists financial institutions with technology vendor contracts
Remedy
Episode: Locked In or Moving Forward: Rethinking Core Renewals
Jordan Thaeler
Payments entrepreneur discussing embedded payments and merchant choice
Post (embedded payments platform)
Episode: Jordan Thaeler on Merchant Choice and the True Cost of Payments
John Min
PhD economist, chief economist at Monex
Monex Group
Episode: Stablecoins vs. SWIFT: The Revolution in Cross-Border Payments
Brian Keef
Manager of the pre-sales team at Nice Actimize
Nice Actimize
Episode: How AI Is Changing Fraud Detection in Modern Payments
Sarah Stapp
Chief Commercial Officer, Aeropay
Aeropay
Episode: Compliance v Sales: Wrestling with Pay by Bank Growth

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 16 ratings
  • Real Talk for Payments Pros

    A must listen for anyone serious about payments, Fintech, and banking. Honest, insightful, impact with real world strategies to help you lead in the fast changing financial landscape.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LizLondon88
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great resource

    A good resource to listen and stay up to date on current rules and changes in the payments industry. Thank you NEACH!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kayla novacek lamb
    United States3 years ago
  • Useful information!

    Very helpful in the roadmap of payments and making sure controls are in place! Always appreciate these sessions!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Twainwright22
    United States3 years ago
  • Easy Digestible Information

    Quick, easy to digest information by knowledgeable NEACH staff and guests.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    GinMarMar
    United States3 years ago
  • Payments nerds rejoice

    An educational way for me to consume payment info on my commute!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Al68519
    United States3 years ago

Listeners Say

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Nice balance of theory and real-world anecdotes about fintechs and banks.
Hands-on and practical; good mix of policy and implementation insights.
Digestible and fast-paced; great for commuting.
Very informative for payments pros; keeps you up to date with industry changes.
Clear, actionable takeaways for improving controls and roadmaps in payments operations.

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Jordan Thaeler on Merchant Choice and the True Cost of Payments
Q: What is Post hoping to achieve and how can merchants access it?
Post aims to unlock vast untapped processing volume by enabling self-serve integrations across software platforms, offering education and rapid deployments so merchants can switch providers without being locked into a single vendor's payments stack.
Jordan Thaeler on Merchant Choice and the True Cost of Payments
Q: What is the core problem with current embedded payments when a software vendor dominates?
The problem is the merchant becomes a hostage with high costs and limited choice; if a single software provider controls payments, the merchant loses flexibility and may pay inflated margins. The goal is to enable true choice and lower costs through open integrations.
Jordan Thaeler on Merchant Choice and the True Cost of Payments
Q: How did you get involved in payments and what sparked your focus on embedded payments?
I came into payments through a combination of finance and engineering background, noticed data gaps in brick-and-mortar, and observed that payment companies captured more value than software firms. This led to a focus on how to unlock value through embedding payments while preserving merchant choice.
Building a Stablecoin Strategy: Steve Wasserman and Larry Pruss Weigh In
Q: What is the potential of QR codes in enabling future payments with stablecoins?
Secure, dynamic QR codes can carry transaction intent and settlement instructions across multiple rails, enabling a tap-to-pay or scan-to-pay experience that works with stablecoins, tokens, or fiat, while preserving strong security and reconciliation capabilities.
Building a Stablecoin Strategy: Steve Wasserman and Larry Pruss Weigh In
Q: How do stablecoins differ from tokenized deposits, and why does that matter for institutions?
Stablecoins rely on 100% reserves and operate on open blockchains, enabling global use and potentially lower costs, while tokenized deposits are closed-loop, operate under traditional banking regs, and may offer FDIC-like protections but with a different liquidity and custody profile. This distinction drives which use cases each is best suited for and what regulatory path they follow.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Wrestling Payments

What is Wrestling Payments about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on modernizing payments operations in banks, credit unions, and FinTechs, with a focus on regulatory shifts, real-time rails, cross-border settlement, and the evolving role of technology in payments. Conversation topics regularly surface topics like FedNow, Reg J changes, crypto and stablecoins, AI-driven fraud prevention, pay-by-bank models, and core technology upgrades, all framed around practical implications for institutions and their customers. A notable strength is bringing together practitioners, regulators, and industry veterans to translate policy and strategy into concrete actions for payments modernization. This mix of policy analysis, technical detail, and vendor/custodian perspectives helps listeners assess ris... more

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1. Phil Robbins
2. Mickey Marshall
3. Steve Wasserman
4. Larry Pruss
5. Rich Carty
6. Jordan Thaeler
7. John Min
8. Brian Keef

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