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Why I‘ll Never Make It

Patrick Oliver Jones
Broadway
Theater
Musical Theater
New York City
Success
New York
Theater Industry
The Hess Collective
Lynn Nottage
Acting
Beetlejuice
Aladdin
Showmance
Performing Arts
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Auditioning
Community Theater
Lerner and Loewe
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The actor’s journey is one of occasional highs and frequent lows. It is a path riddled with self-doubt and frustration as we question our career choices, wondering if we’ll ever really ”make it.” But it is those few moments of glory on stage or screen that can sustain us through all the setbacks and challenges. On this award-winning podcast, New York actor Patrick Oliver Jones invites fellow creat... more

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What does it really take to build a lasting career as an actor? For Michael Kostroff, the answer is persistence.

Michael was actually one of the first guests to ever come on this podcast, and throughout this 10th season, you’ll get to hear from a fe... more

In the previous episode, you heard stories from Katerina Papacostas, where we got into her theater experiences as a 19-year-old as well as her current show, Chess, and filling in for the lead role of Florence Vassy. But there’s more to uncover! And s... more

Broadway performer Katerina Papacostas joins the opening episode of Season 10! She has spent years of working in on tours, on Broadway, and across regional theatre. Currently appearing in the Tony Award–nominated revival of Chess, Kat recently steppe... more

As actors, it’s easy to get caught up in auditions, roles, and the day-to-day work of performing, often without stepping back to consider the larger forces shaping the stories we’re asked to tell. Playwright Lynn Nottage operates on that larger scale... more

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Recent Guests

Katerina Papacostas
Broadway actress and former software engineer
Episode: Katerina Papacostas Is Making All the Right Moves in Chess on Broadway
Lynn Nottage
Playwright and guest on the episode
Episode: A Look Back at Lynn Nottage Shaping Stories That Matter in American Theater
Caroline Bowman
Broadway actress known for dual leads in Evita and Lola in Kinky Boots
Theater (Broadway)
Episode: A Look Back at J. Harrison Ghee & Caroline Bowman Before the Breakthrough Moments
Adrienne Walker
Broadway actress known for The Lion King, Kiss Me, Kate, and Dirty Dancing (national tour)
The Lion King, Kiss Me, Kate, Dirty Dancing
Episode: A Look Back at Adrienne Walker Navigating Rejection as a Broadway Actor
Misha Osherovich
Actor and producer who discussed body image, eating disorders, and LGBTQ+ advocacy
Actor/Producer
Episode: A Look Back at Misha Osherovich and Breaking Free from Body Image Pressures in Theater
Lisa Howard
Broadway actress with multiple Broadway credits and a focus on representing diverse body types in musical theater
Episode: A Look Back at Lisa Howard Defining Success on Her Own Terms in Broadway Musicals
Geoffrey Owens
Actor, director, and teacher best known for The Cosby Show; later featured in Trader Joe's incident and Shift Happens
Cosby Show alumnus; Shift Happens creator
Episode: A Look Back at Geoffrey Owens and the Dignity of Work Beyond Broadway and Television
John McGinty
Actor, Deaf performer who played roles including Quasimodo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Sacramento Music Circus) and starred in Deaf West productions
Actor
Episode: A Look Back at John McGinty and His Persistence as a Deaf Actor on the Broadway Stage
J. Harrison Ghee
Performer with a diverse stage career, cited as a guest on the show
Episode: What Does “Making It” Even Mean? — A Look Back at Ten Conversations

Host

Patrick Oliver Jones
Host of the show, introduced as the host in the episode

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 41 ratings
  • WINMI rocks!!

    I’m so glad you interviewed John Rubinstein. Back in the 70’s I was lucky to see John and Ben Vareen in Pippin. I was also a fan of Children of a Lesser God and saw it twice with John. He was so adorable and talented. Thanks Patrick for having a favorite of mine on WINMI.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    rrrrr6262
    United States3 years ago
  • Thoughtful and Insightful

    Patrick is one of the best podcast hosts out there. Insight and empathetic, he always brings the best out of his guests. Having an actor interview other working actors, rather than stars interviewing other stars, you get an idea of the struggles of going into this craft. It’s the best!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JayTrotter2
    United States3 years ago
  • Love this!

    I love this podcast. Patrick is a top-notch interviewer who never gets in the way of his guests. Rather, he lets them talk. Further, he does his research, and the podcast’s production quality is second to none! Highly recommend this podcast. Patrick is the best of the best.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CarolinaGirl0508
    United States3 years ago
  • Wow

    You need hobbies

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    ReddEye81
    United States3 years ago
  • WINMI rocks!!

    Always look forward to another WINMI interview. This week is truly inspiring. I like the 3 story format. It gives the guest the time to be thoughtful and give details of his experience. Patrick has a way of encouraging his guests and shows empathy and love through and through. Kudos!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    rrrrr6262
    United States4 years ago

Listeners Say

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The show offers behind-the-scenes honesty that resonates with performers at all levels.
Production quality and research are consistently highlighted as strengths.
Listeners praise thoughtful, empathetic interviewing that lets guests speak.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

A Look Back at Misha Osherovich and Breaking Free from Body Image Pressures in Theater
Q: What is the best advice you've received?
Be yourself and own your energy; you can only be the version of yourself that others want to work with, so show them that authentic version.
A Look Back at Misha Osherovich and Breaking Free from Body Image Pressures in Theater
Q: What is a lesson or trait you're still learning?
That the most likable quality is how much you like yourself; learning to value self-acceptance over seeking external validation.
A Look Back at Misha Osherovich and Breaking Free from Body Image Pressures in Theater
Q: Who do you look up to as a mentor or inspiration?
A close friend and collaborator, Michael Lors, who embodies self-care, empathy, and perceptive understanding of others.
A Look Back at Misha Osherovich and Breaking Free from Body Image Pressures in Theater
Q: What is a bucket list role you still want to play?
Equus, a role that would let me sink my teeth into a cathartic and demanding performance.
A Look Back at Ann Harada and Finding Longevity as an Actor
Q: What do you remember most about your first professional show?
Her first professional gig in college was a summer stock experience that taught her the harsh realities of acting life and the power of close-knit peer relationships, while her first equity experience exposed her to a high-caliber, high-pressure cast and the wealth of knowledge gained from observing seasoned professionals.

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This show centers on the actor's journey, focusing on the realities of sustaining a career in theater, film, and television. Conversations typically unpack resilience, mentorship, and the balance between craft and persistence, often highlighting how artists reinvent themselves, navigate rejection, and stay creatively engaged over long arcs. A standout trait is the three-story interview format, which offers candid behind-the-scenes moments, practical career guidance, and personal reflections from a wide range of theater professionals and performers. The show is likely especially valuable for aspiring performers, casting industry folks, and anyone curious about the less-glossy side of making it in the arts, with a steady emphasis on honesty, ... more

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7. Geoffrey Owens
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