Whats the Schemata? A Schema Therapy Podcast

Schema Therapy Training Australia

Schema Therapy

Mental Health

Voice Hearing

Imagery Rescripting

Trauma

Client Engagement

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

Clinical Psychology

International Society Of Schema Therapy

Young Schema Questionnaire Revised

Emotional Needs

Coping Mechanisms

Chinese Culture

Neurodiversity Affirming Practices

Parenting Styles

Stigma In Mental Health

Trauma-Informed Care

PTSD

Visual Hallucinations

Labels In Therapy

A podcast for all things Schema Therapy. Theory, skills, research and more!

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Publishes	Monthly	Episodes	65	Founded	6 years ago
Number of Listeners		Categories	Mental HealthHealth & Fitness

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Episode 62: Remco Van Der Wijngaart (Netherlands): New Year Episode! How to Get Good at What We Do

In this episode, we chat with trainer, writer and Advanced Schema Therapist Remco van der Wijngaart (Netherlands) about how best to develop skills in Schema therapy, new developments within the model and perspectives on empathic confrontation. Toward... more

1 Jan 2026

Episode 61: What's the Schemata With Teens, Schema Therapy with Adolescents with Graham Kell

Some more information about our guest Graham Kell- www.flourishpsychology.com.au/graham-kell

16 Dec 2025

Episode 60: Moving Some Furniture - Troubleshooting Chair work in Schema Therapy

In this episode, Chris looks at chairwork in Schema Therapy. Specifically, he looks at ways to overcome problems and improve skills in applying the technique. Interested in some more reading? Check out these great resources

Kellogg, S. (2014). Transf... more

18 Nov 2025

Emergency What's the Schemata Pod - New Resources Inside the Room/ Schema Therapy Mastery Plus

14 Oct 2025

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Recent Guests

Graham Kell

Accredited advanced adult Schema Therapist and accredited advanced child and adolescent Schema Therapist.

Episode: Episode 61: What's the Schemata With Teens, Schema Therapy with Adolescents with Graham Kell

David Bernstein

Professor of Forensic Psychotherapy at Maastricht University

Maastricht University

Episode: Episode 58: Schema Beatle Modes, The Healthy Adult and Working Dangerous Individuals Prof. David Bernstein

Arnoud Arntz

Professor Emeritus and key figure in the development of Schema Therapy.

ISST

Episode: Episode 56: New Developments and Proposed Tweaks to the Schema Therapy Model with Professor Arnoud Arntz

Beatrice Ng-Kessler

Clinical psychologist and founder of the Chinese Schema Therapy Academy.

Chinese Schema Therapy Academy

Episode: Episode 55: Schema Therapy in Chinese and other Collectivist Cultures: Implications for Clinical Practice & Training in the Model Beatrice Ng-Kessler & Rob Brockman

Dr. Susan Simpson

Leading expert in Schema Therapy focused on eating disorders.

Schema Therapy Training

Episode: Episode 57: Eating Disorders Update: Working with Comorbidity, Trauma, and the Body in Eating Disorders Treatment with Susan Simpson

Oz Yalcin

Researcher specializing in Schema Therapy and the YSQR

NMA Network, Western Australia

Episode: Episode 54: The YSQ- R Questionniare Update with Dr Oz Yalcin

Tara Cutland-Green

Advanced Accredited Schema Therapist and training coordinator

Episode: Episode 51: The Keys to Developing Skills and Competency In Schema Therapy: A Roundtable Discussion with Tara Cutland Green

Dr. Michiel van Vreeswijk

Clinical psychologist and psychotherapist, supervisor in Schema Therapy

Dutch Society for Schema Therapy

Episode: Episode 48 Keeping it Real! Authenticity in Schema Therapy and the Use of AI with Dr Michiel van Vreeswijk

Georgie Paulik White

Associate Professor of Clinical Psychology and Research Psychologist

Perth Voices Clinic

Episode: Episode 47: New ways to work with old voices: schema therapy, imagery rescripting and dissociation in Voice hearers

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Chris Hayes

Co-host and ISST accredited Schema Therapy Supervisor, an advocate for innovative practices in Schema Therapy and facilitating discussions with guests.

Rob Brockman

Co-host and ISST accredited Schema Therapy Supervisor, actively involved in promoting Schema Therapy practices and sharing resources with fellow therapists.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 117 ratings

Please give the guests more airtime!
This can be a great podcast, but I find myself often frustrated by the hosts not giving their guests much airtime eg. 9/8 Wendy Behary…let her answer the questions - that’s why I tuned in to the episode…please notice your tendency to talk over people, to direct your questions to the other then immediately answering it at length yourself. Please share the stage - your guests have a lot to offer the audience (as do you, I know) thanks guys.
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Schemageek
Australiaa year ago
Doesn’t work
I’ve had schema therapy by two different therapists trained by these podcasters and it didn’t help. The therapy did not follow the training manual, which I have read because I study psychology at one of Australia’s highest ranked unis for psychology. I did not get any better. I found EMDR much more useful for complex trauma.
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PatoIano
Australia3 years ago
To chatty not professional
Too much chat between yourselves! Just can’t listen to this! Such an impact schema therapy can have and you guys could be nattering about rugby! To frustrating a waste of time
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trilcghuun
Australia3 years ago
Awesome
Loving this as a new therapist! Though finding the interrupting each other a bit annoying to listen to lol sorry guys. Otherwise loving it!
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sedgjcrhv
Australia3 years ago
Great!
Especially loved your interview with Lars Masden. You guys are super engaging and your passion shines through. However I’ve noticed that Rob has a tendency to interrupt guests, which can make things a little jarring and disrupts the flow of the conversation.
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existentialist12
Australia4 years ago

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Episode 56: New Developments and Proposed Tweaks to the Schema Therapy Model with Professor Arnoud Arntz

Q: What are the three new schemas proposed?

The three schemas are unfairness, incoherent self, and incoherent world, each connected to distinct emotional responses and coping mechanisms.

Episode 56: New Developments and Proposed Tweaks to the Schema Therapy Model with Professor Arnoud Arntz

Q: How have you been? What have you been working on?

I'm good. I'm indeed now retired, officially emeritus professor, but still doing research, supervising students and PhD candidates and seeing patients.

Episode 55: Schema Therapy in Chinese and other Collectivist Cultures: Implications for Clinical Practice & Training in the Model Beatrice Ng-Kessler & Rob Brockman

Q: How should schema therapists from non-Asian backgrounds adapt to work with clients from collectivist cultures?

Non-Asian therapists must prioritize building a safe space for clients and remain open and curious about their experiences, avoiding assumptions about their cultural background.

Episode 55: Schema Therapy in Chinese and other Collectivist Cultures: Implications for Clinical Practice & Training in the Model Beatrice Ng-Kessler & Rob Brockman

Q: What advice do you have for Asian therapists starting their schema journey?

It's highly valuable for Asian therapists to learn schema therapy as it aids in expressing feelings and setting boundaries, which are essential skills in their cultural contexts.

Episode 55: Schema Therapy in Chinese and other Collectivist Cultures: Implications for Clinical Practice & Training in the Model Beatrice Ng-Kessler & Rob Brockman

Q: Can you introduce yourself and share your background related to cultural practice in schema therapy?

Beatrice Ng-Kessler has been practicing as a clinical psychologist for over 13 years, splitting her time between Hong Kong and the UK. She founded the Chinese Schema Therapy Academy and became one of the first accredited schema therapy supervisors in the region.

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Discussions focus on the latest developments and practical applications of Schema Therapy, encompassing themes such as therapeutic techniques, cultural considerations, and advancements in research. Episodes often feature insights from both established experts and emerging voices in the field, emphasizing real-world challenges and success stories in therapy. Noteworthy aspects include a commitment to adapting therapeutic practices to fit various cultural contexts, as well as addressing topics like eating disorders, adolescent therapy, and the integration of contemporary research findings into traditional practices. This content is designed to not only educate but also engage mental health professionals looking to deepen their understanding o... more

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