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How can you change the world? Join Krishnan Guru-Murthy and his guest of the week as they explore the big ideas influencing how we think, act and live.

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Francis Fukuyama
Political scientist and author
Stanford University (as referenced)
Episode: Francis Fukuyama: ‘The old United States is NOT COMING BACK’
Jay Rayner
Britain's best-known food critic, author of Nights Out in the Kitchen
The Financial Times (writer)
Episode: ‘Expensive restaurants are all the same’ - Jay Rayner
Robert Harris
Author and historian; author of Conclave, Agrippa, Pompeii, etc.
Author
Episode: Trump’s like a NEW ROMAN EMPEROR - Robert Harris
Millie Gooch
Founder of Sober Girl Society, author of Hangxiety
Sober Girl Society
Episode: The 'normal' drinking habit DESTROYING your mental health
Dex Hunter-Torricke
Former advisor at Google, Facebook, SpaceX; founder of The Center for Tomorrow
The Center for Tomorrow
Episode: "We're heading over the cliff" - Former SpaceX and Google insider’s warning
Euan Blair
Co-founder and chief executive of Multiverse
Multiverse
Episode: Is university a waste of time? Euan Blair on the future of education and AI
Binaifer Nowrojee
First female president of the Open Society Foundations; international human rights lawyer
Open Society Foundations
Episode: Trump, Gaza and the end of human rights as we know it
Jonathan Haidt
Social psychologist focused on youth mental health and the impact of social media
New York University; University of Virginia
Episode: How social media DESTROYED childhood and how to get it back - Jonathan Haidt
Ben Rhodes
Speechwriter and deputy national security advisor to Barack Obama
Obama Administration
Episode: How the "cult of success" created Trump and Musk - Obama’s speechwriter

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Krishnan Guru-Murthy
Host of Ways to Change the World, Channel 4 News

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 1.4k ratings
  • Euan Blair

    He speaks very fast and with great energy and conviction but doesn’t really say anything about how exactly theses changes could be made. It was all headlines and little substance. It seems he anticipates a world where humans are nothing more than machine minders in another mode. Poor us.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    /Daisy222
    United Kingdom23 days ago
  • Fuck AI

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Pete Moss
    5 months ago
  • if y’all want positive change, this is the REAL DEAL!

    Clara Mattei cuts through the fog of economics allowing the bright light of clarity to shine through, as though ‘clarity’ is derived from ‘Clara’ !!

    I suggest you take a look at their speaking style (on yt ‘Channel 4 News’) for a glimpse of the depth of their understanding.

    If you want to support the cause, ask your local library to add the book, ‘Escape Capitalism’ to their collection.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WattsUp??
    United States7 months ago
  • Ben & Jerry

    This is one of the best interviews with a business person. Their social ethos is the reason I used to purchase their ice cream. But since Unilever purchased the company I have ceased to consume any Unilever product.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Shuck5
    United Kingdom10 months ago
  • Great interviewer & interesting range of guests

    Just finished listening to Suede’s Brett Anderson being interviewed by the ever-excellent Krishnan Guru-Murthy.

    I never had much knowledge/affinity with his band, but really enjoyed his take on the questions - both about songwriting and where in the world we are these days.

    There’s a lovely diversity to the choice of guests in this podcast series and together they give a positive take on the world and the different voices within it.

    Top banana!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mashtup
    United Kingdoma year ago

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High-quality guests and engaging, critical discussions.
Consistently strong storytelling and clear takeaways for listeners.
Thought-provoking, varied guest slate and deep questions.
Some episodes polarize or challenge preconceived views but spark meaningful dialogue.

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Francis Fukuyama: ‘The old United States is NOT COMING BACK’
Q: Could we just finally come on to what you think the political impact of AI and robots is going to be?
AI is a broader, disruptive force that could boost productivity but also destabilize labor markets and governance, requiring careful control to prevent abuse and to manage the social and political implications.
Francis Fukuyama: ‘The old United States is NOT COMING BACK’
Q: Francis, welcome to Ways to Change the World. If you could change the world in any way, how would you change it?
I would mobilize many more young people worldwide, stressing political awareness and participation to address looming challenges like AI, climate change, and social justice, and to counter apathy and extremist movements.
Trump’s like a NEW ROMAN EMPEROR - Robert Harris
Q: So, did you write it with Trump in mind?
Yes, it was impossible not to—Trump's display of power and the culture around him mirrored many dynamics Harris explores in Agrippa, illustrating how modern politics can echo ancient patterns.
Trump’s like a NEW ROMAN EMPEROR - Robert Harris
Q: Did you write it with Trump in mind?
It's hard not to see him as a threat to the old American Republic; the imagery of power and rule-breaking in his actions made the parallels with Augustus feel almost unavoidable.
"We're heading over the cliff" - Former SpaceX and Google insider’s warning
Q: What is the real threat you see from AI and Big Tech, beyond job losses?
Dex highlights systemic risks: erosion of democratic governance, widening global inequality, and strategic dependencies on a few powerful players; he calls for international norms, regulation aligned with real-world changes, and a security-minded, cooperative approach to technology policy.

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