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How can you change the world? Join Krishnan Guru-Murthy and his guest of the week as they explore the big ideas influencing how we think, act and live.

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Tony Iommi
Black Sabbath guitarist and heavy metal pioneer
Black Sabbath
Episode: 'I was shocked when I saw Ozzy before he died', Black Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi
Navi Pillay
Human rights lawyer, former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights and 2026 Nobel Peace Prize recipient
United Nations
Episode: Nobel Peace Prize winner Navi Pillay HITS BACK at Israel's criticism
Simon Armitage
Poet Laureate, poet, playwright, author and translator
Episode: ‘It was seen as EFFEMINATE’ - Simon Armitage on ‘coming out’ as a poet
Chrystia Freeland
Former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister, journalist and author of Unreliable Boyfriend
Episode: Why Ukraine MUST WIN the war against Putin - former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister
Anthony Scaramucci
Former White House Communications Director, Wall Street financier, author of All the Wrong Moves
All the Wrong Moves (book)
Episode: From Trump INSIDER to CRITIC: Anthony Scaramucci on how he got Trump wrong
Alexei Sayle
Comedian, writer and activist
British comedian and activist
Episode: Alexei Sayle on Gaza, Marxism and why people “should stop believing lies”
Salman Rushdie
Author and public intellectual; subject of the fatwa and attack
Episode: Salman Rushdie on the fatwa, the attack and his second act
Eliza Griffiths
Photographer and filmmaker; Salman Rushdie's wife who documented his recovery
Episode: Salman Rushdie on the fatwa, the attack and his second act
Johnny Marr
Guitarist, The Smiths
Episode: Johnny Marr on the ‘MAGIC’ behind The Smiths

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Krishnan Guru-Murthy
Host of Ways to Change the World, Channel 4 News

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 1.4k ratings
  • Jon Ronson

    Jon Ronson asked you not to quote Graham Linehan article as he was protecting his mental health and had chosen not to read it but you went straight ahead. Just wanted to point that out.

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    witwisdom
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Same old same old

    Krishnan nailed it when he asked why AS’ first reaction to the Hamas slaughter and rape on 7 October 2023, was to worry about the impact on the residents of Gaza when the Israelis responded. Not a thought for the innocent people who Hamas attacked.

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    Mike N21
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • The host is too soft and doesn't fight back when he's lied to his face. Interesting but infuriating when people are let free to rewrite history apologetically.

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    frederic.eynaud
    2 months ago
  • Euan Blair

    He speaks very fast and with great energy and conviction but doesn’t really say anything about how exactly theses changes could be made. It was all headlines and little substance. It seems he anticipates a world where humans are nothing more than machine minders in another mode. Poor us.

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    5
    /Daisy222
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Fuck AI

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    Pete Moss
    7 months ago

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'I was shocked when I saw Ozzy before he died', Black Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi
Q: What difference did tuning down make?
It made bending strings easier and gave the guitar sound more depth.
'I was shocked when I saw Ozzy before he died', Black Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi
Q: How did that happen?
While working at a factory on the day he was about to leave for a music job in Europe, Iommi's hand was caught in a machine, removing the tips of two fingers.
Why Ukraine MUST WIN the war against Putin - former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister
Q: Do you think Joe Biden was overly worried that NATO would be drawn into the war?
Freeland says the Biden administration was too cautious, partly over nuclear escalation, and argues that restraint will not deter Putin. She calls for material support for Ukraine and greater pressure on countries supporting Russia, starting with China.
Why Ukraine MUST WIN the war against Putin - former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister
Q: How do you think that can be achieved?
Freeland says pressure must be put on Putin until he can no longer continue the war, with Ukraine supported to push Russia back.
‘It was seen as EFFEMINATE’ - Simon Armitage on ‘coming out’ as a poet
Q: How do you think poetry does change the world?
He says poetry works through persuasion, reward and wonder, offering readers a place of refuge or solidarity without dictating what they should think.

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