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The Rest Is Politics: Leading

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The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering list... more

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Why did Elon Musk really go to Washington, and was DOGE ever about cutting government at all? What happens when the world stops trusting America, and could the next financial crisis already be under way? What will Trump do if he loses the midterms?

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How did Donald Trump’s childhood shape the president we see today? Why was Mary Trump cut out of her grandfather’s billion-dollar will? Why does he want to see Europe fail?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Mary Trump, Donald Trump’s niece and a clini... more

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With the Trump administration planning to livestream a firing squad execution, should the UK take a stand? How will Andy Burnham change Britain’s relationship with the EU? Why has he agreed to publish details of meetings following the Manchester City... more

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Should Palestine Action stay banned? Why can't Britain just send small boats straight back to France? Can faith and public duty coexist in modern British politics?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, to answer all th... more

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Recent Guests

Mary Trump
Clinical psychologist and author, Donald Trump's niece
Episode: 211. Trump's Niece on Why He's On Putin's Side
Andy Burnham
Prime Minister (guest)
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Episode: 210. Rory and Alastair Interview Prime Minister Andy Burnham
Shabana Mahmood
Home Secretary, Labour MP with a Kashmiri-Pakistani background
UK Government / Labour Party
Episode: 209. Shabana Mahmood: Palestine Action, Faith, and What I Told Starmer
Mustafa Suleyman
British AI leader, co-founder of DeepMind, executive focused on AI safety and governance
Microsoft (Artificial Intelligence lead) / DeepMind (co-founder)
Episode: 208. Mustafa Suleyman: Is AI Actually Conscious?
Gordon Brown
Former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Former UK Government
Episode: 207. Gordon Brown: How to Fix a Fracturing World
Sanna Marin
Prime Minister of Finland (former)
Finland government / Social Democratic Party
Episode: 206. How Putin's War Changed Finland Forever (Sanna Marin)
Anthony Scaramucci
Former White House Communications Director; author of All the Wrong Moves
SkyBridge Capital / Former Trump administration official
Episode: 205. Anthony Scaramucci: Why America Keeps Making the Same Mistakes
Dan Neidle
Tax lawyer and founder of a non-profit think-tank focused on tax policy
Episode: 204. Will a Wealth Tax Actually Fix Britain? (Dan Neidle)
Aleksander Čeferin
President of UEFA
UEFA
Episode: 203. The Man Taking On Infantino: UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin

Hosts

Rory Stewart
Co-host and interviewer drawing on political experience and governance insight
Alastair Campbell
Journalist, author, and political strategist bringing historical and policy context

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 9.5k ratings
  • Dan Neidle

    Brilliant episode. Absolutely fascinating discussion. Dan was very engaging and so clear in his explanations. Loved it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TIEITM
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Another brilliant interview

    Loved the interview with the UEFA President. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    chateau10
    Australia2 months ago
  • PM of Iceland - Calm rationality in a chaotic world - more voices like this please

    It was by like a sweeping breeze through a musty smelly room listening to Kristun 👏👏👏. I would love to hear more from the alternatives / balanced human thinkers who actually use words like “emotion” when discussing their consistents. Excellent episode 💥

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    IrishMJM
    Ireland3 months ago
  • Count Binface interview is a must!

    This podcast is great. The Count Binface episode? Exquisite. He's hilarious, yes. but more importantly, his stand against Farage as a protest for democratic integrity. Comedy with purpose. Maybe politics in Britain isn’t completely broken after all.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    *L*u*g*e*r*
    United States3 months ago
  • Wonderful show

    I particularly appreciate the respect and warmth between Rory and Alastair.

    I loved the Count Binface episode. It could be their best yet.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Goldenfish86
    United Kingdom3 months ago

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211. Trump's Niece on Why He's On Putin's Side
Q: Why do you say that?
Mary Trump says that if Richard Nixon had been held accountable and imprisoned for his crimes, it would have established that presidents are not above the law and might have prevented later impunity.
211. Trump's Niece on Why He's On Putin's Side
Q: What does it feel like to get that kind of introduction? Is it a bit unsettling? Are you getting a bit tired of having to talk about your uncle?
Mary Trump says the introduction was accurate and that she is sick of discussing Donald Trump, but his continuing influence makes speaking about him necessary.
210. Rory and Alastair Interview Prime Minister Andy Burnham
Q: What is the timeline for a National Care Service and social care reform?
Burnham links social care reform to a broader 21st-century social contract, proposing a phased approach that pairs pension reform with comprehensive social care services, and signals bold action in the 2020s with a long-term plan.
210. Rory and Alastair Interview Prime Minister Andy Burnham
Q: How should the UK handle defense spending and alliance-building in a multipolar world?
The discussion emphasizes strengthening alliances, avoiding a narrow 'America-first' stance, and balancing collaboration with Europe, Canada, India, and other partners to secure a sustainable defense posture and independent strategic autonomy.
210. Rory and Alastair Interview Prime Minister Andy Burnham
Q: Brexit did more harm than good; what concrete steps should be taken toward closer European integration while still respecting public opinion?
Burnham argues for an honest, pragmatic approach that combines closer collaboration with Europe in key sectors, a clear long-term options framework, and a public-consent process before any major shifts, rather than rushing to a fixed path.

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Two veteran interviewers explore leadership, policy, and global affairs through long-form conversations with politicians, academics, journalists, and thought leaders. Episodes spotlight real-world decision making, governance, ethics, and strategy across politics, economics, technology, and international relations. Guests range from former heads of government to AI researchers and reform advocates, with a distinctive emphasis on civically engaged, thoughtful dialogue that probes underlying motives, policy trade-offs, and long-term implications. A notable strength is the in-depth, unhurried interview style that blends personal anecdotes with structured analysis, often bridging cross-border perspectives and contrasting viewpoints. A recurring ... more

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2. Andy Burnham
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