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The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering liste... more

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Recent Guests

Tina Brown
Editor and journalist, founder of Truth Tellers Summit
Truth Tellers / Vanity Fair / The New Yorker
Episode: 190. How the Media Still Misunderstands Trump (Tina Brown)
Rahm Emanuel
Former Mayor of Chicago, former Chief of Staff to President Obama, former ambassador to Japan
Former U.S. government official
Episode: 189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party
Will MacAskill
Philosopher; founder of effective altruism; advocate for giving and long-term ethics
Forethought Foundation / Forethought Research
Episode: 188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)
Yanis Varoufakis
Former Greek finance minister and author
DiEM25, Greek politics
Episode: 187. Yanis Varoufakis: How The 2008 Crisis Revived Far-Right Populism
Aleksandar Vučić
President of Serbia
Government of Serbia
Episode: 186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Anas Sarwar
Leader of Scottish Labour
Scottish Labour
Episode: 185. Can Labour Win Back Scotland? (Anas Sarwar)
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
President of Ukraine
Office of the President of Ukraine
Episode: 184. President of Ukraine: Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Naz Shah
Labour MP for Bradford West
Labour Party
Episode: 183. From Bradford to Westminster: Faith, Identity, and Power (Naz Shah)
Sarah McBride
First transgender woman in Congress, Democrat from Delaware
U.S. Congress (Delaware)
Episode: 182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride)

Hosts

Alastair Campbell
Political commentator and host with a long-running role guiding in-depth policy conversations and leadership narratives.
Rory Stewart
Former diplomat and politician who co-hosts discussions with a focus on leadership, governance, and public policy.

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 9.3k ratings
  • Sarah McBride interview - gender critical response sorely needed

    Please offer an interview to a rep from For Women Scotland. You have now given given significant airtime to their Supreme Court victory and the trans community’s response to it. Surely For Women Scotland deserve the right of reply.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Taffy Kathy
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • A top “10” interview drawing out Vucic’s perspective whilst respectfully disagreeing where they must

    Excellent respectful inquiring interview with President Vucic that drew out his view including of the ‘interventionist’ West. A textbook “10” on informing the audience of the interviewee’s views/perspective whilst respectfully disagreeing with some comments.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ACT Frankie
    Australiaa month ago
  • Two smartasses trying to be smart

    Little insight, coupled with long and rambling questions to try to prove how smart the questioner is. Illustrative of how the British political establishment has lost its way

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Way-It-Is
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Inspiring

    What an amazing interview with Zelenskyy-well done

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Francesanderson
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Zelensky

    What an inspiration.

    Great episode thank you.

    Pity there are not more leaders cut from the same cloth. The world would be in a much better shape.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    podnut64
    Australia2 months ago

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Insightful, thoughtful interviews with world leaders and policy thinkers.
A go-to for those seeking nuanced takes on geopolitics and governance.
Some listeners critique the pacing and ad breaks, but the content remains strong.
Consistently high-level conversations that challenge guests without resorting to sensationalism.
Long-form format offers depth not found in many political programs.

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189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party
Q: What is your view on the future of the Democratic Party and your potential candidacy?
Emanuel frames the future as an ideas-driven contest focused on education, healthcare, economic opportunity, and a modernized alliance-based foreign policy, while acknowledging the reality of a tough, expensive path to the presidency and the need to prove he can balance heart, head, and policy strategy.
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Q: How will Serbia navigate relations with the United States and China in the coming years?
The guest presents a nuanced view, highlighting the U.S.'s strategic interest in Eastern Europe and arguing that China is a long-term partner in development, technology, and economic diversification, while Serbia maintains its sovereignty and pursues balanced partnerships.
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Q: What is the role of the EU in watching enlargement, and could Serbia join without full compliance?
Serbia's leader contends that strategic patience and innovative arrangements like single-market opening could move the process forward while acknowledging the EU's conditions and the need for consensus among member states.
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Q: Kosovo question: How do you view Kosovo's independence and Serbia's path toward Europe?
The guest defends Serbia's stance, argues for a pragmatic approach to EU integration that may include regional arrangements, and stresses that the path to Europe must consider Kosovo's status and regional stability.
184. President of Ukraine: Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Q: What role did diplomacy and negotiation play in your strategy before and during the war?
Negotiation was a tool to de-escalate and stabilize; I pursued talks with Putin to finish with Minsk, but when war began, strategy shifted to mobilizing internal resilience, seeking trilateral dialogue with the US and Europe, and ensuring Ukraine's survival and strategic reforms.

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2. Rahm Emanuel
3. Will MacAskill
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5. Aleksandar Vučić
6. Anas Sarwar
7. Volodymyr Zelenskyy
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