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The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering liste... more

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Recent Guests

Odd Arne Westad
Professor at Yale University; guest discussing his book and views on global power dynamics
Yale University
Episode: 192. Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad)
Jack Clark
Co-founder of Anthropic, AI safety leader
Anthropic
Episode: 191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)
Tina Brown
Editor and journalist, founder of Truth Tellers Summit
Truth Tellers / Vanity Fair / The New Yorker
Episode: 190. How the Media Still Misunderstands Trump (Tina Brown)
Rahm Emanuel
Former Mayor of Chicago, former Chief of Staff to President Obama, former ambassador to Japan
Former U.S. government official
Episode: 189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party
Will MacAskill
Philosopher; founder of effective altruism; advocate for giving and long-term ethics
Forethought Foundation / Forethought Research
Episode: 188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)
Yanis Varoufakis
Former Greek finance minister and author
DiEM25, Greek politics
Episode: 187. Yanis Varoufakis: How The 2008 Crisis Revived Far-Right Populism
Aleksandar Vučić
President of Serbia
Government of Serbia
Episode: 186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Anas Sarwar
Leader of Scottish Labour
Scottish Labour
Episode: 185. Can Labour Win Back Scotland? (Anas Sarwar)
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
President of Ukraine
Office of the President of Ukraine
Episode: 184. President of Ukraine: Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Hosts

Alastair Campbell
Political commentator and host with a long-running role guiding in-depth policy conversations and leadership narratives.
Rory Stewart
Former diplomat and politician who co-hosts discussions with a focus on leadership, governance, and public policy.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 9.3k ratings
  • Can be variable caliber of subject matter and special guests. Rory's interview with Jack Clark, co-founder of Anthropic, absolutely superb and enlightening.

    Podcast Addict
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    ScotInSpain
    a month ago
  • Shifty

    What a couple of crooks on the make. Plenty of other good podcasts thankfully.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Alexander Technique Made Easy
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Analysis

    Great interview with Rahm Emanuel, and as always: your analysis afterwards is the best of it all. Thank you for that.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Anceaux
    Netherlandsa month ago
  • New look

    Insightful and revealing interviews as always. I could have listened to Neil Kinnock all day, and the interview underlined yet again that he was the best PM we never had.

    Just a slight concern about the new look icon: you two besuited gents look the very essence of suave, but the positioning of Alistair's head obscures the 'e' in 'Leading' so it looks like 'Politics Fading' 🥴. I'm sure I can't be the only one seeing the image this way every time!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Polly Politic
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Sarah McBride interview - gender critical response sorely needed

    Please offer an interview to a rep from For Women Scotland. You have now given given significant airtime to their Supreme Court victory and the trans community’s response to it. Surely For Women Scotland deserve the right of reply.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Taffy Kathy
    United Kingdom2 months ago

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Insightful, thoughtful interviews with world leaders and policy thinkers.
A go-to for those seeking nuanced takes on geopolitics and governance.
Some listeners critique the pacing and ad breaks, but the content remains strong.
Consistently high-level conversations that challenge guests without resorting to sensationalism.
Long-form format offers depth not found in many political programs.

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192. Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad)
Q: Can we identify the key factors that could lead to a major war in the near future?
Westad argues that the combination of high tensions among great powers, non-state actor risks (including terrorism), miscalculation, and a lack of imaginative thinking about possible futures could produce a crisis that spirals into conflict, unless there are preventive steps and a willingness to negotiate and manage conflicts.
189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party
Q: What is your view on the future of the Democratic Party and your potential candidacy?
Emanuel frames the future as an ideas-driven contest focused on education, healthcare, economic opportunity, and a modernized alliance-based foreign policy, while acknowledging the reality of a tough, expensive path to the presidency and the need to prove he can balance heart, head, and policy strategy.
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Q: How will Serbia navigate relations with the United States and China in the coming years?
The guest presents a nuanced view, highlighting the U.S.'s strategic interest in Eastern Europe and arguing that China is a long-term partner in development, technology, and economic diversification, while Serbia maintains its sovereignty and pursues balanced partnerships.
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Q: What is the role of the EU in watching enlargement, and could Serbia join without full compliance?
Serbia's leader contends that strategic patience and innovative arrangements like single-market opening could move the process forward while acknowledging the EU's conditions and the need for consensus among member states.
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
Q: Kosovo question: How do you view Kosovo's independence and Serbia's path toward Europe?
The guest defends Serbia's stance, argues for a pragmatic approach to EU integration that may include regional arrangements, and stresses that the path to Europe must consider Kosovo's status and regional stability.

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2. Jack Clark
3. Tina Brown
4. Rahm Emanuel
5. Will MacAskill
6. Yanis Varoufakis
7. Aleksandar Vučić
8. Anas Sarwar

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