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The Rest Is Money

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UK Economy
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UK Government

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing bus... more

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How much of a buffer does the chancellor have now? What taxes might we need to put up? How does the tax burden on UK workers compare to other countries? Why might middle earners need to pay more?

Ruth Curtice from the Resolution Foundation is back t... more

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The chancellor says we're turning a corner, but into what? He wants ministers to take more risks, so what does that mean? Why was their nothing that directly addresses the UK’s vulnerability to a debt crisis? The North is getting a new fund for busin... more

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Are we at risk of a global financial crisis? What’s driving it? And why is the UK being punished more than other countries? Is reforming the pensions triple lock part of the answer?

It’s been a wild time on the bond markets, with UK gilts yields at ... more

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Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown says fixing broken communities is an economic emergency, but how do we do it?

Burnham’s fiscal devolution? Could social impact bonds work? How do we extract more tax from the super wealthy? What about the shattered... more

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Gordon Brown
Former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
Former UK Government
Episode: 310. Gordon Brown: ‘I’d tell Trump he’s unpopular’
Gus O'Donnell
Former Cabinet Secretary to the UK Government
UK Government/Whitehall
Episode: 308. The 4 challenges (and the biggest opportunity) facing the new PM
Daron Acemoglu
Nobel Prize-winning economist
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Episode: 307. The world’s most influential economist: how we can deliver "worker-friendly AI"
Euan Blair
Founder of Multiverse, EdTech entrepreneur
Multiverse
Episode: 305. The Apprentice Unicorn - Euan Blair on rewiring investment and training
Andy Burnham
Prime Minister (as referenced in discussion)
UK Government
Episode: 303. Why making schools truly comprehensive is vital for our economy
Olivia Lane
Apprentice at Amazon
Amazon
Episode: 303. Why making schools truly comprehensive is vital for our economy
Richard Berriman
Manufacturing Director, Tegel Machinery
Tegel Machinery
Episode: 303. Why making schools truly comprehensive is vital for our economy
Nicky Storey
From Engenuity (charity)
Engenuity Skills Charity
Episode: 303. Why making schools truly comprehensive is vital for our economy
Matt Clifford
British tech investor, co-founder of Entrepreneurs First
Entrepreneurs First
Episode: 300. Does Burnham get AI?

Hosts

Robert Peston
Host of The Rest Is Money; long-form financial and economic commentary
Steph McGovern
Co-host introducing topics and guiding discussion; host focus on economics and policy

Reviews

3.5 out of 5 stars from 2.8k ratings
  • Steph please stop going on about your business.

    Steph needs to listen more and talk less. She talks total rubbish and is very annoying generally and especially when wanging on and on about her business. More Robert less Steph.

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    TheRealOkosanto
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Less disquisition more inquisition

    Listening to Nick Clegg, who spent the last 7 years shilling for company that helped turn the news cycle into a minute by minute, individualised cesspit of polarization, suggest that the “intellectual energy” in the UK is coming from the far right is beyond irony. Zero pushback from Preston, this is not journalism.

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    Mavernish
    Australia3 months ago
  • Predistribution

    Just listened to this. And 40 minutes later I have no idea what this mad woman was on about, barring something about needing more swimming pools in London. Robert and Steph totally dropped the ball on this one. They needed to intervene to try to clarify if there were actually any ideas there.

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    Mark terrace
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Good when it’s topical

    Good when we’re getting the hosts’ insights on current/future issues with relevant guests but lately just seems to be an advert for whatever guest’s book every week like so many podcasts that have run out of ideas

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    Siobhan 87
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Let's keep trying

    Socialism didn't work before and killed a ridiculous amount of human beings. But let's keep trying, maybe taking money away from people with strong work ethics and giving it to lazy people will work this time.

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    CBK98
    United States3 months ago

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Some critics feel segments have become too ad-heavy with sponsor reads.
Many praise the hosts' ability to frame policy debates around real-world impact.
Listeners appreciate accessible explanations of complex macro trends.

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310. Gordon Brown: ‘I’d tell Trump he’s unpopular’
Q: How should the Bank of England be Mandated going forward?
Brown argues the Bank's independence should be preserved, but emphasizes that employment and growth should be considered alongside inflation, suggesting a broadened but balanced approach rather than a strict inflation-only mandate.
310. Gordon Brown: ‘I’d tell Trump he’s unpopular’
Q: What would a wealth tax look like and should it replace or reform existing taxes?
Brown explains there are already wealth taxes in many forms; the key is coherence and reform of existing taxes (like property-related taxes and capital gains) to ensure fairness and sustainability without driving capital to other jurisdictions.
310. Gordon Brown: ‘I’d tell Trump he’s unpopular’
Q: Do you think essentially, this is something that I think Dara Nassar-Moglu would argue?
Brown suggests that while there is a link between social bonds and economic performance, it is not a direct one-to-one causation; instead, declining social cohesion creates a vacuum that nationalist politics can fill, but policy should target both economic and social renewal.
309. Why we’re wasting our time predicting the future of AI
Q: Can you explain the concept and potential of a National Open Source AI Lab?
She explains open source AI as publishing code and training data to enable accountability, collaboration, and rapid deployment in the public sector, arguing it could spur a UK ecosystem of small to large firms that deploy openly available tools in government and health services.
309. Why we’re wasting our time predicting the future of AI
Q: What should government and organizations do instead of simply predicting the future of AI?
She advocates for data-driven, decision-focused approaches: use predictive models where data supports it, but prioritize concrete actions and procurement reforms, open-source approaches, and building domestic capabilities that are resilient to policy and market shifts.

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1. Gordon Brown
2. Gus O'Donnell
3. Daron Acemoglu
4. Euan Blair
5. Andy Burnham
6. Olivia Lane
7. Richard Berriman
8. Nicky Storey

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