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Third Space Podcast

Paul Fahey
Catholic Church
Spiritual Abuse
Mental Health
Catholicism
Pope Francis
Vatican II
Pope Leo
Catholic Social Teaching
Hope
Conscience
Evangelization
Sexual Education
Moral Injury
Awake
Human Dignity
Liberation Theology
Vulnerability
Descent Into Light
ICE
Purity Culture

In the Third Space we will discuss the good and the ugly in the Church. We will live in the grey—avoiding easy answers and black and white fundamentalism—in order to hold on to all that is true. www.catholicthirdspace.com

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Today I’m resharing the second of a two-part series from the first season of Third Space. This is a conversation I had with Dr. Marcus Mescher about liberation theology and what it means to have a preferential option for survivors. I think what Marcu... more

Today I’m resharing the first of a two-part series from the first season of Third Space. This is a conversation I had with Dr. Marcus Mescher about liberation theology and what it means to have a preferential option for survivors. I think what Marcus... more

It was a lot of fun last night talking with Sarah Carter and Ricardo Simmonds about Pope Leo’s new encyclical on safeguarding humanity during the age of AI, Magnifica Humanitas.

We discussed why we think the encyclical is getting as much attention a... more

Today I’m resharing an episode from February of 2025, in the first season of Third Space. This is a conversation I had with Esther Harber.

Esther Harber is a devoted Catholic living with her husband and daughters in Ohio. She is a convert from a fun... more

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Recent Guests

Marcus Mescher
Associate Professor of Christian Ethics, Catholic moral theologian
Xavier University
Episode: 41: Marcus Mescher - Liberation Theology
Ricardo Simmonds
PhD in Environmental Studies and environmental advisor with Catholic Bishops' Conference background
Galileo's Ghost / Catholic Church engagement and private sector work
Episode: Leo Live 5!
David Lantigua
Associate Professor of Theology at the University of Notre Dame; Co-Director of the Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholicism
University of Notre Dame
Episode: 39: David Lantigua - Leo’s Latin American Theology
Sister Carino Hodder
Dominican sister of Saint Joseph, catechesis tutor, writer
Dominican community (Light of Truth)
Episode: 38: Sr. Carino Hodder, OP - Pope Leo, One Year Later
Shaun Blanchard
Theologian and guest on the episode
University of Notre Dame Australia
Episode: Leo Live 3
Julia Sadusky
Dr. Julia Sadusky, psychologist and author
Lux Counseling and Consulting; Ave Maria Press (author of several Catholic parenting books)
Episode: 36: Julia Sadusky - Conversion Therapy & Chiles v. Salazar
Anne Carpenter
Professor of Theological Studies, Saint Louis University; author
Saint Louis University
Episode: 34: Anne Carpenter - Balthasar and the Catholic Right
Rhonda Miska
A preacher, writer, spiritual director, and lay ecclesial minister.
Church of St. Timothy
Episode: 32: Rhonda Miska - Ministering in Minneapolis
Jenn Morson
Freelance writer and investigative journalist
Episode: 31: Jenn Morson - Feeling Betrayed by the Pro-Life Movement

Hosts

Paul Fahey
Host of The Third Space Podcast with a focus on Catholic thought, reform, and dialogue.
Sarah Carter
Host and creator involved in discussions on Pope Leo and Vatican II themes.
Dr. Julia Sadusky
Licensed psychologist and author contributing expert critique on psychology and faith-based topics.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 57 ratings
  • Smart and Insightful

    This podcast is one of the few I have found that honors the richness of our Catholic tradition while including all that is beautiful and good and areas that need to heal. I'm very grateful to have found it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DrTim4
    United States3 months ago
  • Keeping Catholics Honest!

    Paul is dealing with issues that require deep humility and repentance from Catholics. A much needed voice.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jtorr183
    United States2 years ago
  • A returning baptized catholic

    I can’t say enough about Paul Fahey, the host of Third Space. He really emphasizes topics so important to me. I feel validated and heard when I listen to Paul and his guests. Thank you, Paul!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BDD20240
    United States2 years ago
  • A Generous Space

    The “About” says it all, and Paul Fahey’s work and voice on crucial matters in the Church is generous and trustworthy.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    littlegale
    United States2 years ago

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The discussion emphasizes humility, reform, and prophetic critique.
Clear, thoughtful engagement with Catholic tradition and contemporary issues.
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41: Marcus Mescher - Liberation Theology
Q: How does Gustavo Gutiérrez's life story illuminate his theology?
Gutiérrez's experience growing up poor in Lima, his struggle with polio, and witnessing marginalization shaped a theology that centers God's gratuitous love and a preferential option for the marginalized, turning scripture into a lived practice of justice.
41: Marcus Mescher - Liberation Theology
Q: What is Liberation Theology, explained from the ground up?
Liberation Theology is theology that begins with the concrete reality of people's lives, especially the poor, and seeks to understand God and faith through that lens, calling for systemic change and solidarity while affirming the fullness of life for all.
Leo Live 5!
Q: What practical guidance or boundaries might the encyclical inspire for everyday tech use?
They note the absence of concrete prescriptions in some parts and suggest cultivating personal and communal discernment, establishing boundaries, and avoiding dependence on technology to the detriment of human flourishing, while embracing useful innovations in medicine, education, and communication.
Leo Live 5!
Q: Is technology neutral, and how should the church respond to AI and digital tools?
The panelists agree that technology is not neutral; its origins, purposes, and uses shape outcomes. They call for critical engagement, principled discernment, and humility, recognizing both the benefits and harms of digital tools while avoiding blanket prohibitions.
40: Esther Harber - Closest to the Heart of Jesus
Q: How do you stay engaged with the Church despite the harms you experienced?
She explains that staying is rooted in a belief in the Church as a home and in the grace of Christ, the dignity of the laity, continual healing through therapy and prayer, and active participation in survivor circles and advocacy to transform structures from within.

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1. Marcus Mescher
2. Ricardo Simmonds
3. David Lantigua
4. Sister Carino Hodder
5. Shaun Blanchard
6. Julia Sadusky
7. Anne Carpenter
8. Rhonda Miska

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