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Welcome to the[STACK], the ultimate podcast for Managed Service Providers (MSPs) looking to elevate their game and stack up on success. Hosted by MSP veteran, Dan Tomaszewski, this podcast is your go-to resource for mastering the perfect blend of people, business, and technology in the MSP world. Each episode, we delve into the intricacies of the MSP landscape, featuring interviews with top channe... more

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What if your next client conversation started with the three biggest risks they’re facing instead of, “How’s everything going?”

Dan and Brian Doyle of vCIOToolbox explore how AI is changing the vCIO conversation—from faster assessments and smarter Q... more

We may be living through the MSP industry’s next dot-com moment.

Eric Torres of Pax8 joins Dan to talk about the massive opportunity AI is creating for MSPs, the shift toward Managed Intelligence, and why building the right guardrails matters as ado... more

Forget the complicated platforms, elaborate builds, and AI buzzwords for a minute.

Tony Francisco joins Dan Tomaszewski to talk about how MSPs can start putting AI to work today—without overcomplicating it. From analyzing competitors and uncovering ... more

AI is creating opportunities that go far beyond automation and efficiency. Live from ChannelCon 2026, Dan sits down with Nancy Hammervik, Chief Channel Officer at GTIA, to discuss GTIA’s work with the United Nations’ AI for Good initiative, what it c... more

Copilot doesn't necessarily create your clients' security problems—it may just make them much easier to find.

Dan and Derik Belair of Augmentt explore what happens when AI meets years of overshared files, excessive permissions, global admins, and me... more

Your MSP stack shouldn't run on autopilot.

Dan sits down with John Douglass of Pileus Technologies at ChannelCon 2026 to talk about regularly evaluating your security stack, identifying gaps, proving the value of new tools, and keeping clients infor... more

AI is moving beyond the hype and directly into the way MSPs work.

Dan Tomaszewski sits down with Dee Zepf of Syncro to explore how AI is changing everyday MSP operations—from ticket summarization and intelligent dispatch to MCP, voice-driven workflo... more

Too many tools. Too many tabs. Too much time spent just trying to find what you need.

Dan and Carlson Choi of Slide break down why the traditional “single pane of glass” often falls short, what real integration should look like, and how MSPs can use... more

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Eric Torres
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Episode: MSPs, This Is Your Dot-Com Moment
Tony Francisco
MSP veteran; early AI adopter and speaker
PUR
Episode: Dazzle Them With the Basics: Start Here, Then Scale
Nancy Hammervik
Chief Channel Officer, GTIA
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Episode: AI Is Going Global. The Channel Is Going Local.
Dee Zepf
Leading product team at Syncro
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Episode: Before You Sell AI to Clients, Use It Yourself.
Carlson Choi
Chief Operating Officer at Sly
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Episode: The “Single Pane of Glass” Lie MSPs Keep Buying
Geras Hovhannisyan
CEO and founder of EasyDMARC
EasyDMARC
Episode: You Know Every Endpoint. But Do You Know Every Domain?
MJ Shoer
Guest interviewee discussed GTIA and ChannelCon initiatives
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Episode: ChannelCon 2026 | Why "The Tech Guy" Era Is Officially Over
Ryan Bowman
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ThreatLocker
Episode: AI Can Solve the Ticket. Can Your Tech Explain Why?
David Schwartz
CEO of Pia
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Episode: "Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean You Should" — Pia's CEO on AI for MSPs

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Dan Tomaszewski
Host of the STACK and Everything MSP-focused show, a veteran MSP practitioner helping translate technical topics into business outcomes.

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Dazzle Them With the Basics: Start Here, Then Scale
Q: Do you think MSPs are truly embracing AI today in leveraging that in their business for themselves and for their clients?
The guest argues that adoption is lagging and stresses that practical, incremental steps—starting with internal audits, simple discovery, and client-ready outputs—are what actually drive value, rather than chasing hype around full-scale AI platforms.
AI Is Going Global. The Channel Is Going Local.
Q: And it's something that I didn't think about that, you know, GTIA would become involved in. And so can you give our audience an overview of what this initiative is?
The initiative is hosting AI for Good events in the US and UK as calls for submissions for AI-driven solutions, culminating in a winner who will participate at the UN AI for Good Forum in Geneva. It enables GTIA members to contribute to global AI standards, connect with civic societies, and showcase innovations that advance the UN's sustainability goals, with the aim of fostering a two-way dialogue between practitioners and policymakers.
Your Client’s Data Was Already Exposed. Copilot Just Found It.
Q: How long does readiness take, and what does a 'ready' environment look like?
Readiness is about having the right people in the right groups with appropriate permissions, ensuring data access is limited to what individuals should have, and validating that complex data in platforms like SharePoint or Teams isn't exposed beyond intended boundaries. It's a gradual process, starting with a small, restrictive AI scope and then expanding once high-risk areas are mitigated.
Your Client’s Data Was Already Exposed. Copilot Just Found It.
Q: What are the common gaps MSPs encounter when doing readiness assessments for Copilot in a real client environment?
Gaps typically involve misaligned or overly permissive access, too many global admins, unstructured data stores, and a lack of clear ownership over who can access what. There's also a tendency to focus on licensing rather than the broader security and data-exposure implications of AI, including how data is stored, shared, and who is authorized to access it.
Before You Sell AI to Clients, Use It Yourself.
Q: What is the most common mistake MSPs make when they start adopting AI today?
MSPs often jump in and try to automate everything at once after a first aha moment, which leads to a clutter of half-built automations. The better approach is to start small, focus on solving one real problem, ensure it works, and then iteratively expand.

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The show centers on helping MSPs scale their businesses through practical strategy, governance, and a strong services mindset. Across recent episodes, the conversations span AI adoption and governance, security simplification, identity and email trust, data migrations, vendor incentives, and the evolution from traditional IT management to advisory-led “managed intelligence” offerings. The host consistently steers toward business outcomes, recurring revenue models, and operational playbooks that MSPs can apply immediately, with episodes often featuring vendor perspectives, practical how-tos, and real-world MSP experiences. A noteworthy thread is the push to elevate MSPs into strategic partners—cIO-like advisors for SMBs—while emphasizing gov... more

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