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The TMG Fireside Chat Podcast

John Mackey
Mergers and Acquisitions
Halon 1301
Wesco Halon Bank
Ernie Horvath
Digital Transformation
Inspect Point
NFPA
Approved Fire Protection & Security
Halon Industry
90-Day Operating System
Fluoroketone
Fire Protection
Marketing Strategy
Family-Owned Businesses
Montreal Protocol
Generational Leadership
NFPA 2001
Hfcs
FAA
Artificial Intelligence

A podcast dedicated to the fire protection & life safety industry where we share podcasts and interviews with industry leaders and resources. We will be talking about industry wide challenges and highlight solutions that will help solidify the industry’s foundation while preparing for growth through new technologies and strategies. You can reach John Mackey through email, john@mackeygroupllc.com a... more

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Two fire protection companies can have the same trucks, the same codes, and the same customers — and end up in completely different places. Benchmark data tells the story: contractors with no structured systems are flat to down ~1% over five years; t... more

Build to Grow™ Pillar #4: Reporting Most fire protection contractors say they have reporting. Far fewer make decisions with it. In this episode, John Mackey sits down with two leaders who run the same business through two different lenses — Pam Gartn... more

John Mackey sits down with Nick Sandberg, Director of IT at Hiller Companies, for a no-filter conversation about technology strategy in fire protection and life safety. No vendor pitches. No silver bullets. Just two operators who've lived inside FLS ... more

In this kickoff episode of the Build to Grow™ series, John Mackey introduces a disciplined framework for fire protection owners and senior leaders navigating a rapidly evolving industry.

Demand remains strong. But growth feels heavier.

Compliance r... more

“Building Value, Preparing for Growth & Transition”

With John Mackey & Ken Wiesenfeld

Episode Overview: In this episode of The Mackey Group Fireside Chat, John Mackey sits down with Ken Wiesenfeld (Wise Financial Consulting) to discuss how fire & l... more

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Join host John Mackey in Episode 20 of the TMG Fireside Chat as he sits down with longtime friend and fire protection leader Dave Pelton, Vice President of Technical at NAFED (National Association of Fire Equipment Distributors). They dive deep into ... more

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Ep 19.3 - Manufacturer Innovation Gaps and Supply Chain Pressure

 

Join John Mackey (Founder & CEO of The Mackey Group) and Drew Slocum (Chief Strategy Officer & Co-Founder of Inspect Point, and host of The Fire Protection Podcast) for a candid, rea... more

Join John Mackey (Founder & CEO of The Mackey Group) and Drew Slocum (Chief Strategy Officer & Co-Founder of Inspect Point, and host of The Fire Protection Podcast) for a candid, real-world conversation about the future of fire protection.

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Recent Guests

Nolan Mackey
Guest facilitator, son of John Mackey
NAFED presenter participant (co-presenter with John Mackey)
Episode: The 90-Day Operating System — Turning Strategy into Execution (Build to Grow Mindset, Ep. 6)
Pam Gartner
CFO of Approved Fire Protection & Security
Approved Fire Protection & Security
Episode: Two Lenses, One Business — How a Family-Owned FLS Contractor Runs on Reporting
Clinton Campbell
Director of Sales for Approved
Approved Fire Protection & Security
Episode: Two Lenses, One Business — How a Family-Owned FLS Contractor Runs on Reporting
Diane Pine
CEO of Approved Fire Protection & Security
Approved Fire Protection & Security
Episode: Two Lenses, One Business — How a Family-Owned FLS Contractor Runs on Reporting
Nick Sandberg
Director of IT at the Hiller Companies
The Hiller Companies
Episode: Inside the FLS Tech Stack—Tools Changing the Game | BTG Mindset Podcast
Ken Wiesenfeld
Founder of Wise Financial Consulting and seasoned M&A/financial advisor
Wise Financial Consulting
Episode: TMG Fireside Chat: Episode 21 with Ken Wiesenfeld, Principal at Wise Financial Consulting
Dave Pelton
Vice President of Technical at Nafed
National Association of Fire Equipment Distributors (Nafed)
Episode: TMG Fireside Chat with NAFED’s Dave Pelton – Ep 20 Fire Codes, Battery Risks & What’s Ahead
Drew Slocum
Chief Strategy Officer and co-founder of Inspect Point
Inspect Point
Episode: TMG Fireside Chat Ep 19.1 with Drew Slocum, Chief Strategy Officer and Co-Founder of Inspect Point
John Demeter
President of Wesco Halon Bank; writer/editor/publisher of Halon Herald
Wesco Halon Bank
Episode: TMG Fireside Chat Ep. 18.6 w/ John Demeter - Digital Transformation in Fire Protection

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John Mackey
Host of multiple fire protection and business-focused podcasts under The Mackey Group umbrella

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The 90-Day Operating System — Turning Strategy into Execution (Build to Grow Mindset, Ep. 6)
Q: What is the core idea behind the 90-day operating system?
The core idea is to replace ongoing firefighting with a structured, quarterly cycle of priorities, clear ownership, and regular cadences (weekly, monthly, quarterly) to build repeatable growth and scalable operations.
Episode 17 - TMG Fireside Chat with Zach Nelson, Founder of Elk River Marketing
Q: What were your three takeaways from the Mayfed presentation?
AI is here and should be applied to how we operate; integrate AI across the business; and enhance customer interfaces and experiences using AI, while ensuring content and engagement are the pillars of strategy.
TMG Fireside Chat Ep 18.3 w/John Demeter - "Will the industry see another Ernie Horvath?"
Q: John, in your last Halon Herald, you had an article that discussed whether there will be another Ernie Horvath in our industry. What answer would you give today?
The industry will continue to produce entrepreneurs and legacy builders, but duplicating a figure like Ernie Horvath isn't likely; instead, the focus is on sustaining a culture of scrappiness, leadership, and foundational contributions that move the industry forward.
Launching Build to Grow™ — Discipline, Optionality, and the Future of Fire Protection
Q: What conversations do owners tend to have too late, and how does that affect value during exit readiness?
If owners wait too long to identify value drivers and prepare their business, they leave a lot of money on the table when a sale or transition becomes necessary; proactive readiness creates optionality and maximizes potential outcomes.
Launching Build to Grow™ — Discipline, Optionality, and the Future of Fire Protection
Q: So as we start to wind down this conversation a little bit, what are some common traps and misconceptions?
Owners often think they are not selling or that selling is not an option, but the real value comes from building relationships and foundational pieces now so they have options later, including succession plans and governance that allows for growth without being forced to sell.

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What is The TMG Fireside Chat Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on leadership, growth, and operations inside the fire protection and life-safety sector, with a strong emphasis on disciplined financial reporting, KPI-driven decision making, and technology-enabled transformation. Across episodes, guests discuss building scalable businesses through transparent scorecards, real-time data, and integrated tech stacks, as well as navigating industry shifts like M&A, private equity activity, and regulatory changes. Concrete topics include cash flow metrics, days sales outstanding, ERP and reporting tools, AI-driven workflows, and the evolving role of OEMs and distributors in a consolidating market. The format tends to blend practical, strategy-oriented guidance with firsthand industry anecdote... more

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Recent guests on The TMG Fireside Chat Podcast include:

1. Nolan Mackey
2. Pam Gartner
3. Clinton Campbell
4. Diane Pine
5. Nick Sandberg
6. Ken Wiesenfeld
7. Dave Pelton
8. Drew Slocum

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