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The Pactum

The Pactum
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Theological Discussion for Christ's Church The Pactum is shorthand for the Latin Pactum Salutis. The Pactum Salutis is the trinitarian covenant made before the foundation of the world spoken of in texts such as Ephesians 1 and John 17. It is also known as the covenant of redemption. According to the pactum salutis, the triune God who works all things after the counsel of His will commits to save e... more

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Pat and Mike finish up the law and gospel series by talking about how we can recover the law gospel distinction.

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Pat and Mike continue the law and gospel series by considering ten objections to the law gospel distinction.

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In this episode, Pat and Mike continue the law and gospel series by talking about the perils of rejecting the law gospel distinction.

Resources mentioned in this episode: - A Historical-Theological Response to John Piper's What Is Saving Faith? by ... more

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In this episode of the law and gospel series, Pat and Mike discuss the benefits of the law gospel distinction.

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Recent Guests

Aaron S.
Disciple of Jesus, pastor, and a friend of The Pactum.
Episode: Ep. 248 - South Asia Gospel Missions
Mike Abendroth
Author of "King: How the Sovereignty of God Changes Everything" and pastor of Bethlehem Bible Church.
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Episode: Ep. 233 - King
Todd Swift
A friend of Pat and co-host for the episode, involved in sales and biblical teachings.
Episode: Ep. 232 - Friendship
Dennis Johnson
Professor Emeritus of Practical Theology at Westminster Seminary California, author of multiple theological works.
Westminster Seminary California
Episode: Ep. 227 - Journeys with Jesus
Jay Wipf
Co-host of the RenewalCast and author of Learning God's Two Words.
Episode: Ep. 226 - God's Two Words
Brandon D. Smith
Professor at Oklahoma Baptist University and author of Taught of God
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Episode: Ep. 225 - Taught of God
T. Jeff Taylor
Retired pastor, graduate of Westminster Seminary California, and author of the book 'More Than Heaven'
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Episode: Ep. 224 - More Than Heaven
Johnny Gravino
Gospel minister in Rome, originally from Canada with Italian heritage.
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Episode: Ep. 221 - Mission to Rome
Josh Lofthus
Pastor at Redeemer Church and host of The Reformatory podcast
Redeemer Church, Cedro Woolley, Washington
Episode: Ep. 220 - The Reformatory

Hosts

Pat Abendroth
Co-host with long-running involvement in The Pactum, focusing on covenant theology and law/gospel discussions.
Mike Grimes
Co-host known for accessible, pastoral approach to theology and gospel-centered discussions.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 496 ratings
  • Great Show but Check the Backchanneling

    I have appreciated the subject matter on his show as I’ve transitioned into the Reformed position. I especially love the topic of law and gospel, as it has served as a balm to my soul. I still give this podcast five stars, even though there is much of what I guess is called “backchanneling” going on. The “mmm”’s and “right”’s and other active listening sounds have made me turn the podcast off.

    If the guys are reading this, I know you don’t know me at all, and I don’t mean for the first thing y... more

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    LauraRuthG
    United Statesa month ago
  • Makes Christ and the Gospel Clear

    If you are looking for a place where you can lounge on a sofa while enjoying your favorite snow-globe, and learn more about Christ, the Word of God, and understanding law and gospel, this is the podcast for you. It is fun and engaging. Pat and Mike do a great job of explaining the bible in an accurate manner without getting bogged down in terms, making it easy to understand for you everyday Christian. So if you are looking for a new Christian podcast, give this one a try. You won’t be disappoint... more

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    5
    ReformedNerd82
    United Statesa month ago
  • Love this Podcast

    I love this podcast very much. Learning how to properly distinguish between the law and the gospel in the Bible has been such an encouragement for me and my walk with Christ.

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    5
    SolaGratia247
    United Statesa month ago
  • Makes Christ and the Gospel Clear

    If you are looking for a place where you can lounge on a sofa while enjoying your favorite snow-globe, and learn more about Christ, the Word of God, and understanding law and gospel, this is the podcast for you. It is fun and engaging. Pat and Mike do a great job of explaining the bible in an accurate manner without getting bogged down in terms, making it easy to understand for you everyday Christian. So if you are looking for a new Christian podcast, give this one a try. You won’t be disappoint... more

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    ReformedNerd82
    United States2 months ago
  • Look forward to every episode

    The Pactum has quickly become one of the podcasts I genuinely look forward to every time a new episode drops. It’s not just the content, though that’s consistently thoughtful, engaging, and well-grounded, but the chemistry between the hosts that really sets it apart. Their back-and-forth feels natural, sharp, and enjoyable without ever drifting into fluff. You can tell these are guys who think deeply, respect one another, and genuinely enjoy the conversation they’re having.

    What I appreciate mo... more

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    Kimbo116
    United States2 months ago

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Engaging, thoughtful discussions with strong biblical grounding.
Accessible theology that still stays historically Confessional.
High-quality chemistry between hosts drives clarity and humility.
Consistently valuable for pastors and lay listeners alike.
Great for listeners wanting serious doctrine delivered with warmth and humor.

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Ep. 253 - Law & Gospel Meaning
Q: What makes this distinction so important?
It clarifies the requirements of God and how we look to Christ for fulfillment.
Ep. 253 - Law & Gospel Meaning
Q: Is this law-gospel distinction a hermeneutic?
Yes, it is a helpful lens through which to read the Bible.
Ep. 253 - Law & Gospel Meaning
Q: How does the law relate to the believer in the Law and Gospel paradigm?
The law is good and not only damns but also guides the believer through Christ.
Ep. 236 - The Pactum and the Gospel
Q: What are some benefits of learning about the Pactum?
One great benefit is redemption, which encompasses justification, glorification, and assurance.
Ep. 236 - The Pactum and the Gospel
Q: What is the covenant of redemption?
It's an important theological label capturing a big idea about the agreement among the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to create and save a people.

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A rigorous theology-focused show centered on the law and gospel distinction, covenant theology, and Reformed biblical interpretation. Episodes frequently explore historical and biblical foundations, practical Christian living, and the gospel's implications for preaching, ministry, and church life, often with guest contributors and live conference coverage. Notable for integrating classical confessional theology with accessible discussion, audience participation, and occasional book/resource giveaways or conference sponsorships that deepen engagement for a theology-minded audience.

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7. T. Jeff Taylor
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