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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench
Taylor Swift
UK Music
Daniel Glass
Streaming
UK Music Industry
Streaming Services
Glastonbury Festival
Glastonbury
AI Lawsuits
Physical Music Sales
Streaming Revenues
Motherhood In Music
Tiktok
Fair Pay For Songwriters
Amy Winehouse
Music Industry
BBC Radio 2
Music Industry Diversity
Dynamic Pricing
Liam Gallagher

The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by PPL. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thought... more

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Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary producer, Fraser T Smith.

With credits ranging from Adele’s “Set Fire to the Rain” to Stormzy’s “Gang Signs & Prayer”, as well as his own project, Future Utopia, Fraser has helped s... more

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Josh Mateer, Head of A&R for Europe, Middle East and Africa at SoundOn, TikTok’s artist and label services platform.

From his teenage days playing in punk bands and promoting shows in Belfast... more

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Matt Riley, the newly appointed president of AWAL UK.

With a background that spans from DJing and promoting club nights, to cutting his teeth at Hospital Records, and then playing a pivotal r... more

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with a legend in the industry, Jo Charrington, president of Capitol Records.

With a career spanning over three decades at labels including London, Virgin, BMG, Sony, EMI and now Universal, Jo ha... more

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Josh Mateer
Head of A&R for Europe, the Middle East and Africa at SoundOn
SoundOn
Episode: TMT:62 Josh Mateer On SoundOn’s A&R Revolution
Matt Riley
New president of Awal UK
Awal
Episode: TMT:61 Matt Riley On CMAT’s Big Breakthrough & What’s Next For AWAL
Jo Charrington
President of Capitol Records at Universal Music UK, A&R legend with a career spanning over 30 years, known for discovering artists such as Sam Smith and Olivia Dean.
Capitol Records
Episode: TMT:60 Jo Charrington on Discovering Sam Smith & Breaking Olivia Dean
Jack Garratt
Visionary artist and winner of the BBC Sound Of Poll and BRIT's Critic's Choice Award in 2016
Independent Artist
Episode: TMT:59 Jack Garratt on Artists’ Struggles & The Lessons The Music Industry Needs To Learn
Mark Orr
Founder of LAB Records
LAB Records
Episode: TMT:58 Mark Orr On Taking The K’s To No.1 & Building A Modern Indie Success Story
Madeleine O'Gorman
A highly rated young executive with experience as a music journalist and booking agent, currently the General Manager for Mushroom Music UK and Europe.
Mushroom Music
Episode: TMT:57 Madeleine O’Gorman on Pendulum’s Big Comeback & Working With The Legendary Michael Gudinski
David Martin
CEO of the Featured Artist Coalition
Featured Artist Coalition
Episode: TMT:56 David Martin On Saving Grassroots Music & Why The Fight For Streaming Reform Must Continue
Cliff Fluet
A lawyer with extensive experience in the music industry and chair of Music Technology UK.
Lewis Silkin
Episode: TMT:52 Cliff Fluet On The Future Of AI & Why The Music Biz Must Embrace Technology
Jim King
CEO of AEG Europe's Festival Division with over 30 years of experience in the live music industry.
AEG
Episode: TMT:50 Jim King on Turning BST Hyde Park Into A Blockbuster Event and The Secrets Of Festival Success In 2025

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Mark Sutherland
Host of The Money Trench, who has experience across various music-related projects and a deep understanding of the dynamics of the music industry.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 95 ratings
  • Brilliant

    Hi Mike, hi Mark - forgot all the months to write- I’m in from beginning on and listened to almost every episode. Really enjoying it! Great mix of guests and so much good inside and Entertianment . Keep it coming- all the best from Berlin - Tessy Schulz

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Susanne/Berlin
    Germany8 days ago
  • A blast!

    So informative and entertaining

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Scarlett Rhett
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • Brilliant

    Loving the pod. Learning so much about the music biz. You are so brat!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Veronicaplath13
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Great insight into the industry!

    Loving the guests so far, some brilliant stories and I already feel like I’ve learned a lot. Keep it up!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Brimmey
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Great listen

    Working in broadcasting I have always had a strong interest in the music business. This podcast was ideal for this interest.

    It’s got fantastic info and a high level of content expertise but it delivered in an way that understand and enjoyable.

    The interview with Lorna Clarke was excellent. She’s been a trailblazer at the bbc and responsible for so many of its ‘good bits’ so getting her thoughts is a real insight.

    Looking forward to hearing more from this podcast and seeing how it all develo... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    stubar123
    United Kingdoma year ago

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Many appreciate the focus on mental health as it relates to the music profession.
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Several comments highlight the host's expertise and engaging interview technique, making the program a valuable resource for anyone interested in the music industry.

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TMT:61 Matt Riley On CMAT’s Big Breakthrough & What’s Next For AWAL
Q: What is the future plan for Awal over the next few years?
We aim to focus on building a great label, diversifying our team, and expanding our reach globally to support artists.
TMT:61 Matt Riley On CMAT’s Big Breakthrough & What’s Next For AWAL
Q: How can Awal break an act to the level of big stars like Taylor Swift or Adele?
There is potential for us to reach that level as we have artists showing great growth and unique pathways in their careers.
TMT:61 Matt Riley On CMAT’s Big Breakthrough & What’s Next For AWAL
Q: How important is YouTube to Awal and your artists?
YouTube is a great partner with transparent data and robust tools for rights management, making it beneficial for artists.
TMT:61 Matt Riley On CMAT’s Big Breakthrough & What’s Next For AWAL
Q: Matt, you obviously work with a lot of managers. Do you think their contribution to the industry is undervalued?
I think it's been a real journey for managers. They are doing a lot more and taking on greater responsibilities with their artists, which reflects their essential role in the ecosystem.
TMT:58 Mark Orr On Taking The K’s To No.1 & Building A Modern Indie Success Story
Q: What are your plans for LAB Records?
We aim to continue developing our artist roster and deepen our focus on physical sales while maintaining a positive reputation in the industry.

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Conversations reveal a deep exploration of the diverse facets of the music industry, emphasizing the balance between artistic creation and the complex business landscape surrounding it. Themes such as artist development, mental health in the music profession, the evolving role of technology, and industry challenges including streaming reform are prevalent throughout episodes. Guests range from executives at major labels to indie artists, providing insights into marketing, personal anecdotes from careers, and expectations for the industry's future. The program is probably unique in its combination of industry news discussion and in-depth interviewing style focusing on personal journeys and industry evolution, making it valuable for those see... more

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