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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

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The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by Sound On and Tixel. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, includin... more

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Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Martin Goldschmidt, founder of Cooking Vinyl.

Having been at the head of the physical-first label for 40 years, Martin shares how he found a sweet spot working with established artists and fa... more

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alex Bruford, Agent and Co-Founder of ROAM.

After starting his career as a drummer and tour-managing around the world, Alex has transitioned to the booking agent side of the business with Rep... more

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Welcome to The Money Trench! This week Mark is joined by Obi Asika, founder of The Malachite Group and the newly launched TMG Talent Agency.

Reflecting on a career spent bringing African talent to global stages, Obi discusses the influence of his ea... more

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Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Kat Kennedy and Tim Parry of Big Life.

Over 40 years as a management and publishing powerhouse, Big Life has worked with defining acts such as The Verve, Badly Drawn Boy and Kate Nash.

The t... more

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Alex Bruford
Rome agent and partner, ATC Live alumni
Rome, ATC Live (now part of ATC Music Group)
Episode: TMT:105 Alex Bruford On Fixing Live’s Economics
Obi Asika
TMG founder and promoter of Afro Nation and Malachite Group
The Malachite Group / TMG Talent Agency
Episode: TMT:104 Obi Asika on Bringing African Talent to the World
Kat Kennedy
Managing Director at Big Life
Big Life
Episode: TMT:103 Kat Kennedy & Tim Parry On 40 Years Of Big Life
Tim Parry
Co-founder of Big Life
Big Life
Episode: TMT:103 Kat Kennedy & Tim Parry On 40 Years Of Big Life
Sarah Slater
Managing Director, Ticketmaster UK
Ticketmaster UK
Episode: TMT:102 Sarah Slater On Running Ticketmaster UK & The Battle Against Touts
Chris Wright
Co-founder of Chrysalis, founder of Right Tracks
Right Tracks / Chrysalis
Episode: TMT:101 Chris Wright On Co-Founding Chrysalis & Building The BRIT Awards
Chris Dempsey
Founder of Corduroy Artists
Corduroy Artists
Episode: TMT:100 Chris Dempsey On Take That’s Record-Breaking Touring Triumphs
Marc Marot
Co-founder of Breaking Wave Group
Breaking Wave Group
Episode: TMT:99 Jeremy Marsh & Marc Marot On The New Landscape For Labels
Jeremy Marsh
COO of Breaking Wave Group
Breaking Wave Group
Episode: TMT:99 Jeremy Marsh & Marc Marot On The New Landscape For Labels

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Mark Sutherland
Host of The Money Trench; producer for The Money Trench/Tape Notes with extensive experience in music industry storytelling.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 123 ratings
  • Love this!

    Coming up for 100 episodes, this is, in my opinion, the best music industry podcast out there.

    Amazing guests with fantastic stories and anecdotes, numerous recommendations for new music, all held together by two industry legends, Mark Sutherland & Mike Walsh.

    Thanks and keep up the great work 🎶👍🏼😎

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Geoff GLAM.RED
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • A must for anyone in the Music Industry or thinking about a career in the Industry.

    This podcast literally had me hooked. I was late to the party but once I was in, I went straight back to the beginning to listen to every episode.

    It has great guests, facts, figures and real life stories not to forget tips.

    Looking forward to what’s next for 2026

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cscadden
    United Kingdom9 months ago
  • Brilliant

    Hi Mike, hi Mark - forgot all the months to write- I’m in from beginning on and listened to almost every episode. Really enjoying it! Great mix of guests and so much good inside and Entertianment . Keep it coming- all the best from Berlin - Tessy Schulz

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Susanne/Berlin
    Germanya year ago
  • A blast!

    So informative and entertaining

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Scarlett Rhett
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Brilliant

    Loving the pod. Learning so much about the music biz. You are so brat!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Veronicaplath13
    United Kingdom2 years ago

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TMT:104 Obi Asika on Bringing African Talent to the World
Q: What makes Afrobeats and African talent different in the global market?
He argues that the genre is rooted in community and grassroots networks, and that true global reach comes from working with local promoters, investing in infrastructure, and ensuring money circulates back into the ecosystem.
TMT:104 Obi Asika on Bringing African Talent to the World
Q: Do you see UK agencies and promoters adequately serving African talent today?
He suggests that big agencies sometimes lack the time or local insight to build real, multi-city touring infrastructure, and that dedicated, on-ground, continent-wide platforms are necessary for sustainable growth.
TMT:100 Chris Dempsey On Take That’s Record-Breaking Touring Triumphs
Q: Chris, what's the secret to Take That's enduring success and growth?
It's about hard work, smart decisions, and investing in live shows and a strong creative team; there's no one silver bullet, but a combination of talent, strategy, and evolution keeps them relevant.
TMT:94 John Giddings On 50 Years Working On Live Music’s Frontline
Q: With giants like Live Nation in the mix, how do you stay independent and forward-thinking as the industry consolidates?
John discusses choosing to participate in the bigger ecosystem to sustain festival growth, while emphasizing the need to preserve the festival's identity and maintain opportunities for developing artists.
TMT:94 John Giddings On 50 Years Working On Live Music’s Frontline
Q: What was it like reactivating the Isle of Wight Festival and building it back up to a major event?
John recounts the long process of securing support, managing risk, and making bold programming choices, including landmark lineups and the importance of creating a welcoming festival environment for fans and artists alike.

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What is The Money Trench about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A weekly deep dive into major music industry stories, anchored by high-level executives and seasoned industry observers. Discussions typically weave current market dynamics—ticketing, streaming economics, AI and data, live events, and policy shifts—with personal career retrospectives from guests who've shaped labels, management, publishing, and touring. The episodes tend to pair sharp analysis of industry trends with backstage anecdotes and practical lessons for professionals across artists, managers, venues, and platforms. A standout pattern is the breadth of guest backgrounds, from publishing and promotion to live touring and tech-enabled fan experiences, offering both historical context and fresh perspectives on where the industry is hea... more

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2. Obi Asika
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4. Tim Parry
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