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The High Performance Edge Podcast

Peter Troast, CEO/Founder Energy Circle
Heat Pumps
Home Performance
Indoor Air Quality
Building Science
Energy Circle
Artificial Intelligence
Permanent Load Reduction
Google
National Home Performance Conference
Private Equity
Building Envelope
Amply
Maine
Manual J
Measure Quick
Measured Performance
Behavioral Science
Locally Owned and Operated
HVAC Industry
Price Orientation

Welcome to the podcast for contractors who lead with building science and want to turn that advantage into a stronger, more successful business. Whether you’re in HVAC, insulation, solar, or home performance, we dig into the strategy, sales, marketing, operations, hiring, and customer experience approaches that power stable, more profitable companies. Hear from top contractors and industry experts... more

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For years, the indoor air quality (IAQ) and healthy home opportunity has felt like the tidal wave that never quite breaks. Homeowners are increasingly worried about the air inside their houses, but there’s a chasm between that worry and the performan... more

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The entire industry is organized around one idea: scale. There are millions of homes to fix and we're moving too slowly. Dan Perunko built Balance Point Home Performance on the opposite bet—and made it work.

In this episode of The High Performance E... more

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Everywhere you turn in HVAC and home performance, some loud voice insists that posting prices online is the holy grail. Many contractors have concluded it's a mandate. But high performance contractors understandably bristle at pricing a job before th... more

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Brent Davidson runs the U.S. Heat Pump Summit, and organizing it puts him in constant conversation with the manufacturers, distributors, and contractors shaping where this market goes next.

In this episode, Peter Troast and Brent talk about the stat... more

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Some of the best work a high performance contractor can win is the job nobody else could solve—the system that was never right, the home that's been uncomfortable for years, the owner who's already fired two other companies. Energy Circle's data has ... more

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Silicon Valley startups are betting they can out-compete traditional HVAC contractors on speed, technology, and customer experience. In this episode of The High Performance Edge, Peter Troast talks with Larry Waters, a 40-year industry veteran and fo... more

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Permanent load reduction, the practice of fixing a home's envelope first to reduce the load before sizing equipment, is gaining traction in high performance contracting. The building science behind it is well understood. The business case gets far le... more

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Scott Libby spent his first 25 years in HVAC insisting heat pumps didn't belong in his home state of Maine. Today he runs Royal River Heat Pumps, a 40-person company that installs nothing else. Maine has since become the country's heat pump proving g... more

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Recent Guests

Darren Eckes
Co-founder of Safe Air Pros
Safe Air Pros
Episode: A Gigantic Pie: The Wide-Open Market in Healthy Homes with Darren Eckes
Dan Perunko
Founder/Owner, Balance Point Home Performance
Balance Point Home Performance
Episode: Small Company, Big Jobs, and a Website That Turns People Away with Dan Perunko
Brent Davidson
Founder and leader of the US Heat Pump Summit
US Heat Pump Summit
Episode: Inside the U.S. Heat Pump Summit with Brent Davidson
Jennifer Manzo
HVAC technician and entrepreneur known as HVAC Jennifer; founder of HVAChicks Coalition
Valeriani Air Conditioning; HVAChicks Coalition
Episode: The Contractor Who Gets All the Problem Jobs with Jennifer Manzo
Larry Waters
Founder of Electrify My Home
Electrify My Home
Episode: How a Whole-House Contractor Beats the Tech Startups with Larry Waters
Ken Allison
Trainer and biz dev for IDI Insulation
IDI Insulation
Episode: Permanent Load Reduction and the Path to High-Margin Envelope Services with Ken Allison
Scott Libby
Founder and owner of Royal River Heat Pumps
Royal River Heat Pumps
Episode: Inside the Maine Heat Pump Miracle: What the Rest of the Country Can Learn with Scott Libby
Abby Yolda
Director of Digital Strategy, Energy Circle
Energy Circle
Episode: The 2026 Google Changes Affecting Contractors, Explained with Abby Yolda
Zach Ortwine
Owner, Southeast Clean Air Solutions (Richmond, VA)
Southeast Clean Air Solutions
Episode: Building an HVAC Business Around the Duct Work Nobody Else Wants with Zach Ortwine

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Peter Troast
Host and founder/CEO of Energy Circle; leads show focused on building science, high-performance contracting, and contractor growth.

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Small Company, Big Jobs, and a Website That Turns People Away with Dan Perunko
Q: How do you filter leads and decide on diagnostic visits or ballpark proposals?
Dan uses an initial phone screen to assess motives, offering to guide away non-ideal leads, then conducts a cursory site visit and creates a ballpark scope with plans to return for formal testing and a full contract if interested.
Small Company, Big Jobs, and a Website That Turns People Away with Dan Perunko
Q: What does a typical project look like and what are the typical ticket sizes?
Typical projects range with a mechanical component around 28k-40k, plus envelope work; total jobs can approach around 100k on a complex three-story Victorian, with many projects in the 50k+ range.
The Behavioral Science That's Holding Your Customers Back, With Guest Denny Duchene
Q: How do you show expertise in the quality area without overwhelming homeowners?
Emphasize universal, values-based messaging tied to clear, auditable evidence, and offer to dive into technical details only when the client asks, using language they understand and third-party verification to back claims.
Rethinking Success: The Heat Pump Business Model That Actually Works With Ed Smith from Amply
Q: How should contractors communicate expertise and process at the first touchpoint?
By ensuring the website and initial materials articulate a concise, compelling 45-second articulation of what makes the contractor unique, and by setting clear expectations for the homeowner about the process and what happens at each step.
Rethinking Success: The Heat Pump Business Model That Actually Works With Ed Smith from Amply
Q: What is the core idea behind the heat pump business model matrix?
The matrix separates two levers—expertise and process—showing that the most sustainable success comes from high levels of both, which builds trust with homeowners and allows for higher margins than competing on price alone.

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This program centers on high-performance contracting and building science as a driver of business growth. Across episodes, listeners hear practical, frontline insights from contractors, manufacturers, and industry experts on topics like HVAC and envelope strategies, indoor air quality, solar integration, and energy efficiency. A recurring throughline is not just the technical work, but how to market, price, and scale premium services: from educating customers and differentiating a contractor's story, to adopting digital marketing, AI-enabled operations, and data-driven diagnostics. A standout pattern is the emphasis on transparent, design-forward solutions, measurable results, and high-quality customer experiences that command premium prici... more

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7. Scott Libby
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