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The Dead Can't Sue

ABC Australia
Chopper Read
Matthew Flinders
Tilly Devine
Harold Holt
Sydney Inner East
Melbourne
Canberra
George Bass
London
Darlinghurst
Woolamaloo
Pentridge Prison
William Buckley
Australia
White Australia Policy
Melbourne University
Child Endowment

Serious academics. Dead subjects. A bit of gossip. Is it appropriate for historians to gossip about the dead? Associate Professors Alecia Simmonds and Leigh Boucher aren't afraid to find out. In The Dead Can't Sue, they poke around in the entrails of Australian history, dishing up the best dirt and juiciest scoops on our nation's dead. Each week, you'll join us for the best dinner party conversati... more

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It's fair to say for a lot of Australians, Harold Holt has become more of a meme than a man, let alone Australia's 17th Prime Minister.

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Perhaps you're familiar with the phrase "Buckley's chance!". Well, it's thought that it originates from William Buckley, a man who defied all odds to escape his fate as a convict.

Buckley was a brickie from Northern England who ends up being adopte... more

Chopper loses his ears but gains an unexpectedly popular literary career, after becoming (sort of) pen pals with crime writer John Silvester.

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Mark Brandon ‘Chopper’ Read (1954-2013) was a notorious Melbourne underworld figure who admitted to murdering four people, right before he died. But as Alecia and Leigh soon discover, he was also a massive liar.

Alecia and Leigh wade through the li... more

Tilly Devine (1900-1970) was a founding mother of Sydney's underbelly, and, as NSW police commissioner Norman Allan simply said: "She was a villain, but who am I to judge her?"

Luckily Leigh and Alecia love to judge.

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Alecia and Leigh sail into the muddy waters of naval history, exploring the key role Indigenous explorer Bungaree played in Matthew Flinders circumnavigation of Australia. Oh, and Flinders's undying love for his cat, Trim.

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Alecia Simmonds
Co-host and historian; associated with multiple Australian universities; provides scholarly rigor with candid, cheeky commentary.
Leigh Boucher
Co-host and historian; internationally recognized for critical analyses of biographies and public memory; brings incisive, humorous perspective.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 52 ratings
  • The Dead C*nts Who…

    Um, huh?

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    JslKeats
    Australiaa month ago
  • Poor Sue

    Every time you say your title I wonder who was Sie , how did she die and why was she such a c-bomb?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Llllllooooeee
    Australiaa month ago
  • New Take

    I thoroughly enjoyed the 2 episodes on Matthew Flinders et al. The historian hosts are refreshingly non-conservative and relatable. They make the characters come alive. Can’t wait for the next one!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    fjlyo
    Australiaa month ago
  • Wonderful

    What a great show! Alecia is so funny!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Miranda the lawyer
    Australiaa month ago
  • So much fun that it flies by

    Alecia and Leigh shine a whole new light on what I thought I knew about Australian history. It’s fun, it’s saucy, and shows how even well known historical figures have far more depth and eccentricity than I would have believed. Together they show how these people and their stories are relevant to the contemporary world (all with a good mix banter and light-hearted humour).

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Peter Cats
    Australiaa month ago
  • Hilarious!

    Naughty and hilarious!

    I love it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Petaluma5000
    Australia2 months ago
  • Simmonds and Boucher reveal a Matthew Flinders we didn’t know

    Very amusing and thoughtful - we explore colonial Australia with Flinders’s amours and his other passions in his life and his work. The second episode is feline-centric featuring Trim, the cat. The gossip element is well measured and timed.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Adelaide Eleanor Dupont
    Australia2 months ago

Listeners Say

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Bantery style keeps complex topics lively and memorable.
Strong storytelling that makes biographies feel relevant today.
Insightful history told with personality and wit.
Engaging depictions of figures with fresh, feminist angles.
Scholarly yet approachable—great for listeners new to history.

Chart Rankings

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#37
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#55
Australia/Top Podcasts
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#4
Australia/History
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#56
Ireland/History
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#79
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Apple Podcasts
#79
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#101
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#159
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#202
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#237
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#242
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Two historians share academically rigorous takes on notable figures from Australia's past, pairing thorough research with cheeky gossip. Episodes mix biographical deep-dives with playful banter, spotlighting rebels, divas, convicts, and other colorful characters while exploring how public narratives around these figures are constructed. Collectively, the show stands out for its combination of serious historical analysis, frank ethics discussions about gossiping the dead, and a light, entertaining tone that can make complex history accessible to curious listeners.

Noteworthy angles include feminist critiques of gendered crime depictions, nuanced portraits of colonial figures, and a willingness to challenge traditional heroic narratives. The... more

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