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That Sounds Hard

Dean McArthur
Heartbreak
Mental Health
Therapy
Grief
Relationships
Psychoanalysis
Queer Culture
Covid-19
Death
Friendship
Family Dynamics
Art
Divorce
Boots
ADHD
New York City
Transference
Therapy and Mental Health
Friendship Breakup
Compromise In Relationships

Hosted by Dean McArthur, a therapist in NYC. Each season follows a theme from therapy with guests who have lived through it - season one is all about heartbreak.

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Earlier this year writer/podcaster/critic Rich Juzwiak ended a nearly decade long relationship. Fresh out of that experience he's with us to share why the conventional wisdom about managing heartbreak might actually suck and his recommendations for b... more

This week Dean is joined by writer and actor Gideon Glick. We're questioning what happens when you fall in love with your career first, what happens if gay guys stop going to the club and which celebrity is most likely to call you a f*g on the street... more

From Amerie to Leonard Cohen, we're calling on all manner of angels to help us understand our broken hearts in this episode featuring designer Rich Aybar.

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This week we're joined by writer (and recent musician) Jean Garnett. Jean's previously published her catalogue of hard-learned strategies to try to soften the edges of heartbreak. Now we sit down with Jean to unpack why they work for her but also why... more

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Recent Guests

Rich Juzwiak
Writer and cultural critic; discussed breakup and growth
Slate (sex columnist); writer
Episode: The End Does Not Define What it Meant with Rich Juzwiak
Gideon Glick
Actor and writer
Self
Episode: It's Only Yours to Lose with Gideon Glick
Rich Aybar
Fashion designer turned furniture designer; longtime friend of the host
Independent designer
Episode: Fight It or Swim in It with Rich Aybar
Jean Garnett
Writer and artist who has written about heartbreak
Writer/Artist
Episode: Heartbreak Harm Reduction with Jean Garnett
Michael Stamm
Former guest, discussed relationship to host and analysis of Jay Shetty interview
Episode: The NY Times VS Jay Shetty ft. Michael Stamm
Jesse Finkelstein
New York DBT therapist and clinical psychologist
Private practice in New York
Episode: If I Try to Contact That Grief with Jesse Finkelstein
Sam Greenleaf Miller
A fellow therapist and the guest on the episode discussing heartbreak, gender identity, and personal growth.
Episode: I Was Gifted a Crack in My Chest with Sam Greenleaf Miller
Charlie Bardey
A writer and comedian sharing personal experiences of heartbreak and relationships
Episode: They Were Writing About this in Gilgamesh with Charlie Bardey
Casey Elsass
Cookbook author, recipe developer, food writer
Episode: Based on Something I Grew Up Eating with Casey Elsass

Host

Dean McArthur
Host of That Sounds Hard

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 32 ratings
  • !

    Like eavesdropping on fascinating conversations between smart, self-aware people who can reference Winnicott and Housewives in the same breath.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    David John Ross
    Canada6 months ago
  • Excellent

    Love this podcast. Funny, heartbreaking, and thought provoking.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    gooplove
    Canada6 months ago
  • Five stars

    Listened to each episode in one fell swoop and loved them all. Dean does a wonderful job of letting the guests share their stories and each guest feels like a small universe onto themselves. Highly recommend and can’t wait for more.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jeremy Sorese
    United States7 months ago
  • Fascinating

    It’s so refreshing to hear therapy presented in such an intelligent way. Dean leads interesting and articulate people to express the self-awareness they’ve gained in their experience of a universal trope of human experience.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bigbeard61
    United States7 months ago
  • Great podcast

    Very smart and interesting exploration of life and relationships. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tanman
    United States8 months ago

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Audiences appreciate candid discussions of heartbreak and personal growth with empathy and intelligence.

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The End Does Not Define What it Meant with Rich Juzwiak
Q: What changes did Rich experience that reframed his heartbreak?
Rich describes shifting from viewing the breakup as a definitive loss to seeing it as a part of a larger life story, enabled by self-work, therapy, and creative processing which allowed him to value what was good while still moving forward.
It's Only Yours to Lose with Gideon Glick
Q: When I asked you about heartbreak, what are your associations with that?
He discusses heartbreak in the context of long-term relationships and career pressures, noting how rejection in acting feels personal and how he copes through writing and reflection.
It's Only Yours to Lose with Gideon Glick
Q: So Gideon, I usually have the guests on this. I say, like, can you introduce yourself?
Gideon introduces himself succinctly as an actor and writer, sharing his background in theater and screen work.
My Therapist's Sister with Julie Tolleson
Q: When you think about heartbreak, what associations do you have?
Heartbreak has a loss component, it's about something that leaves us forever changed.
My Therapist's Sister with Julie Tolleson
Q: What heartbreak is she thinking of?
What personal experiences come to mind involving heartbreak?

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8. Charlie Bardey

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