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Tax Leaders Unplugged

Loctax
Tax Compliance
Tax Regulations
Talent Management
Tax Technology
AI In Tax
Process Excellence
Leadership
Sustainability
Global Tax Operations
Change Management
Brazil
Citizen Development
Stakeholder Engagement
International Tax Management Program
Tax Control Tower
Corporate Tax
Mergers and Acquisitions
Digital Economy
Tax Leadership
Career Development

Welcome to the Tax Leaders Unplugged, a podcast hosted by Stevi Frooninckx (CEO & Co-founder at Loctax), where we go beyond the numbers and the rules, delving into the essence of leadership in the tax world. Our focus isn’t on tax technicalities; it’s on the people behind them. Join us for in-depth conversations with leading in-house tax professionals, exploring collaboration, team management, and... more

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Christian Klein, VP Accounting, Reporting and Tax at Autodoc, joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to discuss how he is using AI to scale a finance and tax function under two-digit growth, and why culture decides whether that works. He shares:

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Luis Nouel, Manager Latin America, Africa-Middle East and Bulletin of International Taxation Teams at IBFD, joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to discuss how tax research actually gets done and where AI fits in. We recorded at IBFD HQ in Amsterdam. Luis bri... more

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Sarah Spring, Head of Tax at Oatly, joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to share her path from finance and accounting into tax leadership, and what it takes to become a real business partner inside an international company. She explains why tax teams need to... more

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Nora Bafrouri, Global VAT and Tax Technology Lead at Trane Technologies, joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to discuss how indirect tax teams can move from compliance to measurable business value.She explains how she built a highly automated VAT operating m... more

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Sandra Esteves, Head of Tax at Qlik (previously HoT at Talend, which was acquired by Qlik in 2023), joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to unpack what it takes for an in-house tax team to get through due diligence and integration without losing control or cr... more

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Mathias Hildebrandt, Head of Tax at Enpal (also Zalando, Bauer Media, ProSiebenSat.1, British American Tobacco), joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to discuss his dynamic career path and multiple side ventures in tax media. In this episode, he shares:• His ... more

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Dominik Wellmann, Global Head of Tax and Customs at Mercedes-Benz Group, joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to discuss marketing the tax function and building purpose-driven teams. In this episode, he shares:• Why he persisted after being rejected twice by ... more

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Bill Nolde, SVP Head of Finance at DraftKings, joins Tax Leaders Unplugged to discuss his remarkable transition from tax professional to finance executive. In this episode, he shares:• The "breadcrumb" communication strategy that keeps CFOs informed ... more

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Recent Guests

Christian Klein
VP Accounting, Reporting and Tax at Autodoc
Autodoc
Episode: Stay Curious, Take Responsibility: AI & High-Performance Tax Teams | Christian Klein
Sara Spring
Head of tax at Oatly; previously head of tax and treasury at Anikura, with roles at GSK, General Mills, and more
Oatly
Episode: From Accountant to Head of Tax | Sara Spring from Oatly
Nora Bafrouri
Global VAT and Tax Technology Lead at Trane Technologies
Trane Technologies
Episode: From VAT to Value: Powered by Tech and Diversity | Nora Bafrouri from Trane Technologies
Sandra Esteves
Head of Tax at Talend (acquired by Qlik); TEI EMEA board member; chairs TEI Direct Tax Committee
Talend/Qlik
Episode: Inside M&A: Insights for in-house tax | Sandra Esteves from Qlik
Mathias Hildebrandt
Head of tax at Enpal, host of a tax podcast, and co-publisher of tax journals
Enpal
Episode: Building Tax Teams for Scale: Lessons from Zalando and Enpal with Mathias Hildebrandt
Dominik Wellmann
Global Head of Tax and Customs at Mercedes-Benz Group
Mercedes-Benz Group
Episode: Turning Tax Knowledge into Value and Trust | Mercedes-Benz Head of Tax and Customs
Stuart Ramsay
Director and Head of Tax at Dubizzle Group
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Episode: Secrets of Successful Tax Leadership in MENA's Tech Industry | Stuart Ramsay
Jelger Buitelaar
Head of Tax at RHI Magnesita
RHI Magnesita
Episode: Transforming Tax Processes: Insights from Jelger Buitelaar, Head of Tax at RHI Magnesita
Peter Paul
Global Director Group Tax at NN Group
NN Group
Episode: How NN Group’s 14-Person Tax Team Manages €1.3B in Tax Contributions

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Stevi Frooninckx
CEO & Co-founder at Loctax; Host of Tax Leaders Unplugged

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Stay Curious, Take Responsibility: AI & High-Performance Tax Teams | Christian Klein
Q: How do you identify use cases to get started with AI in tax?
Use a bottom-up approach: survey the team to gauge interest, collect ideas from hackathons, and filter to scenarios with tangible efficiency gains and strong business cases. Prioritize cases like accounts payable reconciliation and internal controls where AI can deliver measurable time savings and accuracy improvements, then test and scale.
Stay Curious, Take Responsibility: AI & High-Performance Tax Teams | Christian Klein
Q: What would you recommend for people that are just about to get started and want to explore how to apply AI in tax?
Begin with a finance-wide survey to understand interest and current usage, then establish a pragmatic AI strategy focused on people enablement, setting up an AI garage for education and experimentation, and running hackathons to surface realistic use cases with clear ROI. Start with in-house development before outsourcing, ensure compliance early, and pursue iterative pilots rather than big, risky bets.
From Accountant to Head of Tax | Sara Spring from Oatly
Q: Tell us about the journey from starting in finance and accounting to leading tax.
Sara describes a non-linear path where early exposure to cross-charging and a preference for dynamic, challenging environments gradually steered her toward tax leadership, with continuous learning and cross-functional collaboration as core accelerators.
Building Tax Teams for Scale: Lessons from Zalando and Enpal with Mathias Hildebrandt
Q: How do you leverage your network to find job opportunities?
Mathias shares that he often receives opportunities through his network rather than actively looking, making connections is crucial.
Building Tax Teams for Scale: Lessons from Zalando and Enpal with Mathias Hildebrandt
Q: What drives you to change jobs frequently?
Mathias explains that his curiosity and interest in understanding different organizations motivate him to seek new challenges.

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What is Tax Leaders Unplugged about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A leadership-focused show that pulls back from the tax technicalities to explore how in-house tax leaders run teams, drive transformation, and partner with the business. Across recent episodes, guests share career journeys from practitioner to strategic leader, discuss building and scaling tax teams, leveraging technology and data, and navigating cross-functional collaboration in fast-changing environments. Notable angles include turning tax into a strategic business partner, using AI and tax tech to improve processes, and leadership lessons drawn from M&A, international tax, and high-growth companies. The format tends to blend practical leadership guidance with real-world experiences from large corporates and tech-driven organizations, whi... more

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2. Sara Spring
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7. Stuart Ramsay
8. Jelger Buitelaar

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