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Surface Level

Surface Level
Sylvester
Hookup Culture
Sex Education
Queer Experience
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
Black Queer Experience
Stis
LGBTQ+ Community
Mental Health
Relationships
Coming Out
House Music
Comedy
Fellow Travelers
Queer Intimacy
Hygiene
Harm Reduction
Non-Monogamy
Moms Mabley
Capitalism

A weekly show hosted by longtime friends Jordan, Damon, and Tony, explores the complexities of the Black and Queer experience. Through personal stories, dynamic guests, and curious conversations, this series offers a nuanced understanding of identity, race, and sexuality that goes beyond the surface level, with a touch of humor and a fearless willingness to challenge the norm.

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Latest Episodes

Damon and Tony are curious — if so many people say they support trans rights, why does it still feel like trans people are under attack?

In honor of Trans Day of Visibility, we sit down with Tori Cooper, Director of Community Engagement at the Human... more

Damon, Jordan, and Tony are curious – are you ready to go beyond the surface level?

We’re winding down our 11th (!!) season with the classic tradition of responding to questions from our Surface Level insiders. We’re also starting a new tradition of... more

Damon, Jordan and Tony are curious – Is being mainstream famous better than being Black famous?

In today’s social media era many are in pursuit of some type of fame. But while some rise to new heights, they often get questions and judgement about wh... more

Damon, Jordan and Tony are curious – How much can you respect your family members who don’t respect your queerness?

Being Black & Queer in a place like New York, it can be very easy to curate our lives to only interact with people who respect our qu... more

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Recent Guests

Tori Cooper
Health and equity consultant, community organizer, educator, and leader in the transgender and HIV community
Human Rights Campaign
Episode: Trans Day of Visibility
Brandon Kyle Goodman
A powerhouse personality encouraging people to be their full sexually liberated selves as a writer, host, and actor on shows like Big Mouth.
Episode: Black Famous
Will Coleman
A chef, video host, and author of a debut cookbook, From Cart to Kitchen
Episode: The Gay Cousin
Chi Osse
Youngest New York City council member representing the 36th district of Bed-Stuy and Crown Heights, known for his viral policy explainers.
New York City Council
Episode: Black Joy vs Black Resistance
Kristian A. Smith
Pastor who advocates for queer inclusivity in the church
Episode: Sex, Secrecy, and Survival
Robert Hartwell
TV host and award-winning entrepreneur
HBO Max
Episode: Too Black, Too Queer, Too Much
Patrik-Ian Polk
A pioneer in black queer storytelling and the creative force behind Noah's Arc and The Skinny.
Episode: Hiding In Plain Sight
Durand Bernarr
Grammy nominated visionary, a favorite singer with a genre-defying sound and latest project 'Bloom'
Independent Artist
Episode: Gurl, Bring Back Gatekeeping
Jonté Moaning
A true trailblazer in dance, fashion, and queer artistry, known for collaborating with iconic figures such as Beyoncé and Janet Jackson.
Episode: Gurl, Release Your Wiggle

Hosts

Jordan
Host with a focus on idealism and community-minded perspectives.
Damon
Host with a contrarian and provocative approach, often balancing humor and critique.
Tony
Host described as peacemaker and facilitator of conversations.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 451 ratings
  • Beautiful & Inciteful

    I enjoy learning. It’s one of the best ways to u destined the importance of being in community and taking others voices with us into policy and advocacy spaces. Hearing directly from communities is a great way to understand their unique experiences, and how their safety depends on what we don’t know. Thank You for inviting us all into your intimate spaces. I’m learning new perspectives.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    La Shawn Wilburn (HOMAGI)
    United States10 months ago
  • Thought-provoking show

    I really enjoy listening to Surface Level. Tony, Jordan, and Damon strike a wonderful balance of fun, humorous, and thoughtful. I learn and laugh on every episode. Thanks for your platform.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Karen_D88
    United Statesa year ago
  • Phenomenal

    Much needed conversations! Such a saving grace for people that don’t have other queer people in their circles to discuss these topics with. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BD Sam
    United Statesa year ago
  • This show and its topics and its hosts are NECESSARY

    As someone new to this life - You all have saved my life in more ways than one. Thank you for creating a safe space to engage with many topics both trivial and turbulent. I cannot thank you all enough for being so vulnerable, informative, respectful, measured and nuanced while also being fun and engaging.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NothingNeww
    United States2 years ago
  • ❤️

    Absolutely love the show I’m on season 3 while I wrote this but they really touched topics that I as a bi sexual Latino have come to understand that I should ask questions and remain curious. I truly appreciate you three men. I cannot wait to see you flourish to even a wider scale. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jowelljones
    United States2 years ago

Listeners Say

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Hosts balance humor with thoughtful, nuanced conversation attracting a deeply engaged audience.
Listeners praise authentic, vulnerable storytelling and dynamic guest discussions, though some note volume issues at times.
Episodes are inclusive and empowering for LGBTQ+ Black communities, often described as a safety space.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Trans Day of Visibility
Q: What does meaningful support look like, particularly in everyday life and community settings?
Meaningful support includes everyday actions like educating oneself, donating to organizations, volunteering, and promoting visibility through storytelling and advocacy, as well as practical support such as financial contributions, harm-reduction programming, and resources that empower trans people to live with dignity.
The Gay Cousin
Q: What are you curious about right now?
Chef Will is curious about how multiple generations will continue to embrace the Internet, specifically AI and new technologies.
Sex, Secrecy, and Survival
Q: Does hiding sex make people safer or more endangered?
Kristian believes hiding sexuality and making it secretive often puts people in danger due to shame and lack of agency.
Hiding In Plain Sight
Q: What do you think about how the conversations around disclosing sexual health status have evolved since the AIDS epidemic?
Patrik discusses how disclosure stigma remains an ongoing issue but emphasizes that with advancements like PrEP and being undetectable, the risks associated with HIV transmission have decreased significantly.
Hiding In Plain Sight
Q: What are your thoughts about younger folks engaged in discussions about sexual experiences with the generation that lived through the trauma of the AIDS crisis?
Patrik reflects on the lack of knowledge among younger black gay individuals regarding PrEP and the AIDS crisis, emphasizing the importance of engaging with this history for their protection.

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A weekly show exploring the Black and queer experience through personal stories, candid conversations, and thoughtful guests. Hosts mix humor with hard-hitting topics like identity, culture, politics, family, sexuality, and technology, often challenging norms and inviting diverse perspectives. Listeners can expect an intimate, opinionated, and celebratory space that emphasizes community, inclusivity, and authentic dialogue across episodes. A standout feature is the balance between vulnerability and wit among three long-time friends, along with high-profile and rising voices across entertainment, politics, religion, and cuisine who push conversations beyond surface level.

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1. The Read
2. Crissle’s Couch
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5. Vibe Check

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Recent guests on Surface Level include:

1. Tori Cooper
2. Brandon Kyle Goodman
3. Will Coleman
4. Chi Osse
5. Kristian A. Smith
6. Robert Hartwell
7. Patrik-Ian Polk
8. Durand Bernarr

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