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Publishing Rodeo: The Good, The Bad, and the Bloody Ugly

Sunyi Dean
Publishing Industry
Publishing
Author Careers
Book Sales
Traditional Publishing
Book Advances
Writing Tips
Self-Publishing
Literary Agencies
Market Trends
Elk Hunting
Kristina Perez
Revenue Streams
Author Relationships
Career Sustainability For Authors
Journalism
Writing
Marketing
Book Distribution
Bookstore

In 2022, two authors debuted in the same genre, with the same publisher, in the same year. Yet each of their books, and subsequently each of their careers, went in very different directions. That pattern repeats itself throughout the industry, over and over. Why does this happen, and what does it mean?

In this Hugo-nominated podcast, we aim to answer those questions and many more, using collated e... more

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Recent Guests

Chuck Tingle
Author known for surrealistic erotica and genre-bending works
Episode: E44: More Than The Text Of Our Book, ft. Greatest Author Chuck Tingle
James D. MacDonald
A writer with extensive experience and advocate against predatory publishing practices.
Episode: SPECIAL EPISODE: The Grim World Predatory Publishers (ft. James MacDonald)
Suyi Davies Okungbowa
Author and Professor of Creative Writing
University of Ottawa
Episode: S2 E42: Managing Your 'Author Bandwidth', ft Suyi Davies Okungbowa
Nisha J. Tuli
Author and specialist in Romantasy
Self-published and traditionally published author
Episode: S2 E41: Write-to-market & the Rise of Romantasy, ft. Nisha J. Tuli
Kristina Perez
Agent and author with a background in journalism and fiction writing
Perez Literary and Entertainment
Episode: S2 E39: The State of the Industry, ft. Kristina Perez
Ed Wilson
Literary agent and co-owner of Johnson & Alcock
Johnson & Alcock
Episode: S2 E40 - The Downside of Blockbuster Advances, ft Ed Wilson (literary agent)
Dr. Kerry Spencer-Prey
Assistant professor of writing at Stevenson University and researcher on book sales
Stevenson University
Episode: S2 E32 - Our Hugo Awards "Voter Pack" Compilation
Alexander Darwin
Hybrid author of the Combat Codes series, originally self-published.
Orbit Books
Episode: S2 E38: Taking Charge Of Your Book Launch, ft. Alexander Darwin
David Wragg
Author of the Articles of Faith series and the Tales of the Planes trilogy
Harper Voyager
Episode: S2 37 - Reasons To Keep Writing, ft. David Wragg

Hosts

Sunny Deen
Co-host of the podcast, who brings personal insights as an established author and industry commentator.
Scott Drakeford
Co-host of the podcast with insights drawn from his own publishing experiences and a passion for author advocacy.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 314 ratings
  • Destroyed My Dreams, But That’s Life

    A brutal, but very honest, look at publishing in the modern age. This podcast killed what was left of my dream of being a writer. It was mostly dead already, to be fair. This was just the podcast that finished it off. Most of us just die without accomplishing anything. That’s life.

    But if your dream of writing isn’t dead yet, this will be helpful for you I think.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LJTheWay1987
    United States16 days ago
  • THE BEST

    This is the best publishing pod out there! I’m a published author, 5 books by the big 4, and everything y’all talk about is sooo real! I noticed there are few episodes lately but just want you to know I check every week in case something has come out. your podcast has been so valuable to me!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Friend 27.7
    United Statesa year ago
  • Real talk but with a massive dose of bitterness

    I appreciate the honest information but find the hosts’ (self-admitted) petty complaints about the “colleagues” in their chosen industry and overall bitter attitude tiresome. If they can’t find any joy in their chosen work and in the publishing industry then pursue self-publishing or do something else.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    NTH2024
    United Statesa year ago
  • Best Publishing Pod!

    The good, the bad, and the ugly via HONEST, in depth conversations with people in the know! There is not just another publishing podcast. If you want the unvarnished reality of this complex business, this is THE PODCAST.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HumanErin
    United Statesa year ago
  • Saying the quiet part out loud

    Love the honest talk about the joys and challenges of a writing career. Well done!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    David Bruns
    United States2 years ago

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Feedback highlights the value of transparency and candor in the conversations among hosts and guests.
The podcast is recommended for aspiring authors seeking guidance and real-world insights into publishing.
Some listeners feel that the tone can be overly critical of parts of the industry, yet many find the information invaluable.
Listeners appreciate the show's raw and honest discussions about the publishing industry's realities.
Overall, the positivity surrounding the hosts' experiences and lessons learned resonates with a wide range of writing enthusiasts.

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How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#237
United Kingdom/Arts/Books
Apple Podcasts
#129
Singapore/Arts/Books
Apple Podcasts
#249
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E44: More Than The Text Of Our Book, ft. Greatest Author Chuck Tingle
Q: How did you get into trad publishing?
I tweeted that I had written a full horror novel, and Macmillan reached out and offered to publish it.
30 - Relaunching A Career, with Holly Race
Q: Can I ask you a bit about your Orbit deal as well? Because I think that when you mentioned it was in a preempt, and I know you'd said on your site that Orbit fought off a lot of competition for it.
We had quite, I mean, it all happened quite quickly. I was sort of expecting to sit for a couple of months...but I think it was about a week and a half after we went on sub, we had quite a lot of publishers taking it to acquisitions.
30 - Relaunching A Career, with Holly Race
Q: So was there a reason why you changed from YA to adult? Was it like a marketing reason, or just it felt like the book was moving in that direction?
It felt like the themes I wanted to write about were more adult.
S2 E33 - The Myth of the Instant Bestseller, with JT Greathouse
Q: Can you explain the difference between Ingram as a distributor and Ingram as a warehouse?
There is a distinction between just being in a catalog and being effectively distributed by Ingram, which is crucial for authors.
S2 E36 - The Problem with Author Book Events, w/ Sam Missingham
Q: What advice do you have for authors trying to navigate the marketing and publicity landscape?
Focus on building your author brand over time, and consider engaging with local resources to enhance your visibility.

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2. James D. MacDonald
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4. Nisha J. Tuli
5. Kristina Perez
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7. Dr. Kerry Spencer-Prey
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