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Outside Ourselves

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Christianity
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The Third Use Of the Law
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Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. What does it mean for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works? Join Kelsi as she explores questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes every other week. Outside Ourselves is a part of the 1517 Podcast Network.

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Kelsi interviews Pastor Brian W. Thomas about his latest book with 1517 Publishing, By Water and the Word: God's Gift of Baptism for You at the latest Northwest Arkansas HWSS conference. The book serves as a visual and written guide to the Lutheran v... more

Kelsi talks with church historian, professor, and author, Carl Trueman about his newest book, The Desecration of Man: How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity. Carl R. Trueman (PhD, University of Aberdeen) is professor of biblical and religious... more

1517 Executive Director Scott Keith joins Kelsi to discuss his new book, Being Family: Passing Down the Faith Through the Generations.

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Kelsi chats with co-authors, Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford of the newly released "The Culture of God's Word: Faithful Ministry in a Post-Christian Society." The duo talk about remaining faithful to the preaching of God's effective words of law and ... more

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Carl Trueman
Church historian, professor of biblical and theological studies
Grove City College
Episode: How to be Human with Carl Trueman
Hal Senkbeil
Author and theologian
Unknown Pastor/academic
Episode: The Culture of God's Word with Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford
Lucas Woodford
Associate pastor and missiology expert
Trinity, Farmington; Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod
Episode: The Culture of God's Word with Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford
Graham Tomlin
Bishop in the Church of England; author of Blaise Pascal, The Man Who Made the Modern World
Centre for Cultural Witness, seenandunseen.com
Episode: Blaise Pascal: Faith, the Self, and Our Modern World with Graham Tomlin
Adam Francisco
Dr. Adam Francisco, expert in evidential apologetics focusing on the Resurrection
1517 / The Montgomery Apologetics approach
Episode: Evidence for the Resurrection with Adam Francisco
Laurie Krieg
Author and director of parent programs and discipleship for the Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender
Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender
Episode: Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World
Dan Van Voorhis
Historian, host of Christian History Almanac; scholar in residence at 1517
1517; Christian History Almanac
Episode: Understanding Revivalism with Dan van Voorhis
Christopher Richmann
Pastor, Lutheran pastor in Central Texas; religion instructor at Baylor University
1517 Publishing, Baylor University
Episode: The Season of Lent (and the Entire Christian Life) with Christopher Richmann
Louis Markos
English professor and apologist
Houston Christian University
Episode: The True Myth of the Gospel with Louis Markos

Hosts

Kelsi Klembara
Host of Outside Ourselves
Dan Van Voorhis
Guest; historian and podcast host

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 137 ratings
  • Fresh, Interesting, Insightful

    Kelsi invites interesting guests of varied backgrounds and is bold to challenge on theological principles, always bringing the discussion back to biblical truths. The topics are thought provoking and compel me to dig deeper. They have often been the subject for conversation in our family.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tony Ramiz
    United States3 months ago
  • Unique Content

    Your content is wonderfully unique and rooted in Christ and therefore makes a space for non-traditional thinkers! Thank you so much and please don’t stop!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DamiGrace
    United Kingdom6 months ago
  • Excellent Lutheran Content

    I am a member of the WELS synod (I believe many 1517 content is LCMS?) but this podcast and many of the 1517 content is great! It’s good to see quality Lutheran content!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dylman09
    United States8 months ago
  • Great show!!!!

    My wife and I love Mrs. K!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dad Gibney
    United States2 years ago
  • So many voices speaking with honesty and hope

    I can’t recommend this podcast enough. A diverse array of honest voices talking about all aspects of Christianity, with a clear focus on the Finished Work of Christ For You.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Korvocate
    United States2 years ago

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The host asks thoughtful questions and steers conversations with grace.
Guests are diverse yet consistently faithful to gospel-centered perspectives.
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Guests typically align with confessional Lutheran or similar theological approaches.
Some listeners note audio quality issues but remain loyal due to strong content and host.

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Talking Points

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How to be Human with Carl Trueman
Q: Why is cultural Christianity insufficient for true human flourishing, and what should replace it?
Cultural Christianity may attract people but does not bring saving encounter with the gospel; true flourishing comes from the gospel-shaped life and worship that forms character and community beyond mere social usefulness.
How to be Human with Carl Trueman
Q: How does technology relate to the loss of a fixed sense of being human, and what hope is there for believers?
Technology accelerates the erasure of fixed identity, but the church offers a counter-narrative through creed, cult, and code, grounding people in a liturgical community that reminds them they are made in God's image and called to live out the gospel.
How to be Human with Carl Trueman
Q: What is the central claim of your book, and how did you land on it?
The book argues that the desire to be like God desecrates humanity by stripping away the image of God and replacing it with a self-centered, autonomous fashion of identity; this unfolds through disenchantment, expressive individualism, and a modern propensity to transcend natural limits via technology.
Severance and a Theology of Suffering
Q: How does Habakkuk inform the discussion about suffering and faith?
Habakkuk shows a believer voicing real questions and grief to God, and God's response invites waiting and faith, modeling a posture of honest lament that leads to trust; this parallels the episode's call to bring pain to Christ rather than denying it.
Severance and a Theology of Suffering
Q: What does the show suggest about the possibility of removing suffering through technology?
It portrays attempts to erase or compartmentalize suffering as ultimately incomplete and even dangerous, highlighting the Christian message that suffering cannot be fully removed and must be met with grace from outside ourselves.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Outside Ourselves

What is Outside Ourselves about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Conversations center on the Christian faith, exploring how saving faith interacts with culture, reason, and everyday life from a distinctly Lutheran theological perspective. Guests range from church historians and pastors to theologians and authors, discussing topics like gospel-centered parenting, apologetics, church renewal, and the relationship between law and gospel. The show often ties biblical instruction to contemporary life—technology, education, sexuality, revival history, Lent, and cultural discourse—while prioritizing thoughtful questions, pastoral insight, and a desire to articulate faith clearly for listeners who crave depth without heavy-handed rhetoric. A few episodes emphasize practical ministry rhythms (worship, catechesis,... more

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4. Graham Tomlin
5. Adam Francisco
6. Laurie Krieg
7. Dan Van Voorhis
8. Christopher Richmann

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