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Outside Ourselves

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Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. What does it mean for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works? Join Kelsi as she explores questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes every other week. Outside Ourselves is a part of the 1517 Podcast Network.

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Kelsi chats with author, Laurie Krieg, about her newest book (coauthored with her husband Matt), Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World, to answer how we keep the gospel as our foundation as we teach and guide our children through increasingly ... more

What does revival really mean for the modern church? This week, historian, 1517 Scholar in Residence, and Christian History Almanac host, Dan Van Voorhis, joins Kelsi to explore the nuances of revivalism throughout American Christianity and to discus... more

Christopher Richmann teaches religion and is assistant director for teaching and learning with the Academy for Teaching and Learning at Baylor University. An ordained ELCA pastor, Christopher serves St. John Lutheran Church in Gatesville, TX. He join... more

Kelsi talks with English professor and Christian apologist, Louis Markos, about the importance of myth, storytelling, and imagination within Christian apologetics. Using C.S Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien as guides, Dr. Markos argues Christianity is the tr... more

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Dan Van Voorhis
Historian, host of Christian History Almanac; scholar in residence at 1517
1517; Christian History Almanac
Episode: Understanding Revivalism with Dan van Voorhis
Christopher Richmann
Pastor, Lutheran pastor in Central Texas; religion instructor at Baylor University
1517 Publishing, Baylor University
Episode: The Season of Lent (and the Entire Christian Life) with Christopher Richmann
Louis Markos
English professor and apologist
Houston Christian University
Episode: The True Myth of the Gospel with Louis Markos
Ryan Burge
Pastor and social scientist, John C. Danforth Center on Religion and Politics at Washington University in St. Louis
Washington University in St. Louis, Danforth Center on Religion and Politics
Episode: Understanding the American Religious Landscape with Ryan Burge
Dave Zahl
Writer and theologian, associated with Mockingbird
Mockingbird/1517
Episode: Grace and Absolution in Wake Up Dead Man with David Zahl
John Pless
Professor at Concordia Theological Seminary, Fort Wayne
Concordia Theological Seminary
Episode: Jim Nestingen's Legacy with John Pless
Ryan Tinetti
Pastor and professor; author of The Quiet Ambition
Concordia Seminary, St. Louis
Episode: The Quiet Ambition with Ryan Tinetti
Erica Sorensen
Major Gifts Officer at 1517, with a background in education and youth work
1517
Episode: Kids and Parenting in the Digital Age with Erica Sorensen
John Hoyum
Pastor, Luther expert, guest on the show
Lutheran pastor; guest on Outside Ourselves
Episode: Free Will is a Fiction: An Introduction to the Bondage of the Will with John Hoyum

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Kelsi Klembara
Host of Outside Ourselves

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 135 ratings
  • Unique Content

    Your content is wonderfully unique and rooted in Christ and therefore makes a space for non-traditional thinkers! Thank you so much and please don’t stop!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DamiGrace
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Excellent Lutheran Content

    I am a member of the WELS synod (I believe many 1517 content is LCMS?) but this podcast and many of the 1517 content is great! It’s good to see quality Lutheran content!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dylman09
    United States5 months ago
  • Great show!!!!

    My wife and I love Mrs. K!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dad Gibney
    United Statesa year ago
  • So many voices speaking with honesty and hope

    I can’t recommend this podcast enough. A diverse array of honest voices talking about all aspects of Christianity, with a clear focus on the Finished Work of Christ For You.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Korvocate
    United States2 years ago
  • Excellent

    Kelsi’s a great interviewer, and she has interesting and faithful conversations with a slew of wonderful guests. Recommended!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    driver_8
    United States2 years ago

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Audience appreciates the blend of scholarly rigor with practical faith discussions.

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Severance and a Theology of Suffering
Q: How does Habakkuk inform the discussion about suffering and faith?
Habakkuk shows a believer voicing real questions and grief to God, and God's response invites waiting and faith, modeling a posture of honest lament that leads to trust; this parallels the episode's call to bring pain to Christ rather than denying it.
Severance and a Theology of Suffering
Q: What does the show suggest about the possibility of removing suffering through technology?
It portrays attempts to erase or compartmentalize suffering as ultimately incomplete and even dangerous, highlighting the Christian message that suffering cannot be fully removed and must be met with grace from outside ourselves.
Sin and the Christian Life with Luke Kjolhaug
Q: What are common misconceptions about sanctification, and how would you redefine it in light of the Sinner Saint?
He argues sanctification should be understood as growth in Christ (growth down), not merely growing up or increasing personal virtue, and emphasizes that the life of a Christian remains deeply grounded in the gospel rather than law-based self-improvement.
Sin and the Christian Life with Luke Kjolhaug
Q: Can you walk us through some really important key places in scripture where this doctrine is seen, to help listeners understand the biblical basis?
Luke walks through Romans 7 as the core wrestling between old and new man, discusses Galatians 5, and explains how imputation and the two-sided exchange anchor the doctrine in Scripture.
Sin and the Christian Life with Luke Kjolhaug
Q: So with that, can you just tell us a little bit about who you are first and then also a little bit about Sinner Saint?
Luke introduces himself, explains his background in ministry, and describes how Sinner Saint grew out of his personal journey and the Lutheran framework, setting up the central thesis of the book.

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What is Outside Ourselves about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Across episodes, the conversations center on Christian theology, pastoral practice, and cultural life through a distinctly Lutheran-leaning lens. Topics frequently cover revival history, the interplay of law and gospel, scriptural interpretation, vocation, and how faith informs daily life, family, and ministry in a secular age. Notable threads include nuanced takes on revivalism, sermons and catechesis, and the role of ordinary means of grace. A recurring strength is hosting thoughtful scholars and church leaders who bridge rigorous theology with practical guidance for listeners, often highlighting hospitality toward doubt and care for suffering. This mix makes it appealing to listeners who want accessible, scripture-centered discussion tha... more

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2. Christopher Richmann
3. Louis Markos
4. Ryan Burge
5. Dave Zahl
6. John Pless
7. Ryan Tinetti
8. Erica Sorensen

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