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This podcast is part of The Quill & Sword series of podcasts created and hosted by The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS). NSL Unscripted is a national security law (NSL) practitioner’s podcast bringing conversations with NSL practitioners and leaders—in the military, government, and civilian practice, as well as discussions on emerging and hot topics. NSL Unscripted is not... more

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In this episode, Maj Fabiani Duarte, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department, sits down with Mr. Brandon Pugh, the Principal Cyber Advisor to the Secretary of the Army in TJAGLCS’ inaugural vodcast. As the PCA, Mr. Pugh was presid... more

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In this episode, MAJ Emily Bobenrieth, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department, talks with Professor Asaf Lubin, Associate Professor at Indianan University Maurer School of Law and visiting Associate Professor at Columbia Law Scho... more

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In this episode, MAJ Brian Jones, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department, talks with Professor Vinita Singh, Assistant Professor at the University of Iowa College of Law. Professor Singh shares her research on economic sanctions ... more

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This episode is part two of a two-part series which captures the live recording of a panel held at the 1st Emerging Technologies in the Law Course. In this episode, LTC(R) Laura West, Former Chair of the National Security Law De-partment, wraps up he... more

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Recent Guests

Asaf Lubin
Associate Professor of Law at Indiana University Maurer School of Law and a faculty affiliate at Harvard University's Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society and Yale Law School's Information Society Project.
Indiana University Maurer School of Law
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 23 – The International Law of Intelligence with Professor Asaf Lubin
Professor Vinita Singh
Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Iowa College of Law
University of Iowa College of Law
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 22 - Louboutin Lawfare: Reconceptualizing Sanctions Utility with Professor Vinita Singh
Lieutenant Colonel Kevin Schieman
Academy Professor in the Department of Law and Philosophy
United States Military Academy
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 19 - A Philosopher’s Take on Trust and AI with LTC Kevin Schieman
Dakota Rudesill
Associate Professor of Law at The Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law, specializing in national security law, secrecy, and intelligence.
The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 18 - A Discussion on “Secret Law” with Professor Dakota Rudesill of Ohio State Moritz College of Law
Ashley Deeks
Class of 1948 Professor of Scholarly Research in Law at the University of Virginia Law School.
University of Virginia Law School
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 17 – Government Accountability for the Use of AI with UVA Professor Ashley Deeks
John Shanahan
Retired Lieutenant General with a background as master navigator and commander of the 25th Air Force
U.S. Air Force
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 15 – Lt Gen (Ret.) John “Jack” Shanahan discusses artificial intelligence (AI)
Lieutenant Colonel Mike Lebowitz
Judge advocate in the Army Reserve and adjunct professor for the National Security Law Department.
Government Accountability Office
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 14 – Surveillance Law and the Quantum Internet with LTC Mike Lebowitz
Mark Nevitt
Professor of Law specializing in climate change and national security
Emory University School of Law
Episode: NSL Unscripted | Episode 13 – The Climate Crises and U.S. National Security with Mark Nevitt

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Major Brian Jones
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5.0 out of 5 stars from 31 ratings
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    A necessary and broadening perspective for NSL attorneys of all types.

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    United States2 years ago
  • Ep. 2 Must Listen For New JAGs

    Episode 2 not only gives you advice on how to be a force multiplier ilimitado cyber ops billets but also gives you practical advice for new JAGs that are eager to serve in consequential positions in the US Army. Cut the wood in front of you. Do your current job well and grow where you are planted before moving on.

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A necessary and broadening perspective for NSL attorneys of all types.
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NSL Unscripted | Episode 23 – The International Law of Intelligence with Professor Asaf Lubin
Q: What is this framework of International Law of Intelligence that you're proposing?
It presents a structured approach to regulate intelligence activities during the full cycle of operations.
NSL Unscripted | Episode 23 – The International Law of Intelligence with Professor Asaf Lubin
Q: Would you mind explaining why you think that is and how states and academics assess international law to currently govern espionage?
Historically, espionage's legal standing has been viewed variably, yet contemporary scholarship is evolving to propose regulatory frameworks.
NSL Unscripted | Episode 23 – The International Law of Intelligence with Professor Asaf Lubin
Q: How has your experience as an intel analyst and operator shaped your outlook and your research in this area?
My experience shaped a pragmatic viewpoint that recognizes both national security and civil liberties issues at the forefront of intelligence gathering activities.
NSL Unscripted | Episode 21 - Big Tech in Armed Conflict Part 2
Q: Is non-military involvement in military-like activities really greater now than it was before?
While civilian participation in hostilities has historical precedents, the digital infrastructure today raises new concerns about civilian involvement due to the increased access and tools available.
NSL Unscripted | Episode 21 - Big Tech in Armed Conflict Part 2
Q: What is your company's perspective on DOD's Supply Chain Risk Management Imperative?
The company welcomes the U.S. government's efforts to regulate better cybersecurity, is fully invested in what the government is doing, and recognizes the challenges involved in this process.

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2. Professor Vinita Singh
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