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Leading Learning Podcast

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Artificial Intelligence
Lifelong Learning
Learning Business
Continuing Education
Learning Businesses
Professional Development
Growth Mindset
Adult Learning
Adult Education
Workforce Development
Engagement
Cost Management
Beyond Disruption
Higher Education
Personalization In Learning
Revenue
Online Learning
Leadership
Fixed Mindset
Revenue Growth

The market for continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning is large and evolving rapidly. Competition is growing and learners have more options than ever. The Leading Learning Podcast is for learning business professionals who want to thrive in this new landscape. In each episode, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele provide actionable insights based on their own deep exp... more

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Courses and conferences are the backbone of many learning businesses’ portfolios, but for frontline and deskless workers—who make up roughly 80 percent of the global workforce—that model often doesn’t fit how the jobs actually get done.

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Many learning businesses are data-rich and insight-poor. It’s easy to track what’s easy to count—e-mail opens, registrations, completions—but harder to know if the products are doing what they were created to do.

In this episode of the Leading Learn... more

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Many learning businesses evaluate their programs with data that only tells them what already happened. By the time a lagging indicator like a completion rate reveals that a learner is struggling, the window to help has often closed. The good news is ... more

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The association sector is at a genuine inflection point because so much is changing at once. AI is reshaping entire professions. Federal funding is in flux. University pipelines are shrinking. And, in the middle of all of it, associations have an ext... more

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Recent Guests

Steven Khraiss
Head of Data Strategy and Analytics at Holmes Corporation
Holmes Corporation
Episode: 485: Turning Learning Data into Personalized Experiences with Steven Khraiss
Artesha Moore
CEO of Association Forum
Association Forum
Episode: 484: Associations at the Inflection Point with Artesha Moore
Denise Roosendaal
Executive Director of Institute for Credentialing Excellence
Institute for Credentialing Excellence
Episode: 483: Foresight and the Future of Credentialing with Denise Roosendaal
Amy Michalski
Chief Business Development Officer at AIIM
Association for Intelligent Information Management (AIIM)
Episode: 482: Leading with Outcomes with Amy Michalski and Shelly Strickland of AIIM
Shelly Strickland
Marketing Manager at AIIM
Association for Intelligent Information Management (AIIM)
Episode: 482: Leading with Outcomes with Amy Michalski and Shelly Strickland of AIIM
Panos Siozos
CEO and co-founder of LearnWorlds
LearnWorlds
Episode: 481: From Content Economy to Trust Economy with Panos Siozos
Dr. Tessa Forshaw
Cognitive scientist and faculty member at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, directs the Workforce Learning and Innovation Initiative
Harvard Graduate School of Education
Episode: 480: Learning Isn't Content with Dr. Tessa Forshaw
Eric Ries
Entrepreneur and author of The Lean Startup and Incorruptible
Author, Incorruptible
Episode: 479: From Lean Startup to Incorruptible Organization with Eric Ries
Nancy Harhut
Author of Using Behavioral Science in Marketing and Chief Creative Officer at HBT Marketing
HBT Marketing
Episode: 478: Getting Learners to Act with Nancy Harhut

Hosts

Celisa Steele
Host of The Leading Learning Podcast
Jeff Cobb
Co-host of The Leading Learning Podcast

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 79 ratings
  • Practical and thoughtful

    I've been listening to Leading Learning for several years now. Their guests are thoughtful and offer very practical advice and insights that I apply in both inperson and online settings. I often listen while walking my dog....and get home and hop on my computer to check out the speaker, a books, and so on.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Headsuplead
    United States2 years ago
  • Thought-provoking

    I was very pleased to stumble on this podcast some time ago. Perfect to get the neurons firing when I commute. Highly recommend it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Diane from Toronto
    Canada2 years ago
  • Brilliant Podcast

    Love the episode where you had Whitney Johnson where she discussed about the key concepts from her book, Smart Growth, particularly the S Curve of Learning. Really inisghtful.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JSchinwald
    Philippines4 years ago
  • Love this podcast

    Every time I tune in to one of LL podcast I learn something valuable. I find myself taking notes and looking up show notes so I can refer to key points I learn that I can apply to my work. I have referred several of my colleagues working in the “third sector” of education. Thank you for producing such rich content and interviewing thought leaders in the field.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    j123
    United States4 years ago
  • On point and thought-provoking

    This show pushes me to think in new ways while incorporating diverse expertise that connects to the real world of learning. Great job.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CarolineMA2
    United States5 years ago

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Guests are typically leaders or practitioners with real-world expertise in learning, governance, and product strategy.
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Listeners praise the show for depth, practical insights, and actionable notes that translate into work improvements.

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

483: Foresight and the Future of Credentialing with Denise Roosendaal
Q: When you look at the credentialing landscape today, what would you point to as the most important things learning businesses should understand about where credentialing is now and where it may be heading?
Denise highlights the scale of the credentialing ecosystem (1.8 million credentials in the US), the distinction between credential types, and the need for ongoing, evidentiary assessment and durable skills to stay relevant as AI changes work. She also stresses the importance of standards, governance, and foresight to guide organizations toward sustainable, high-quality credentialing programs.
482: Leading with Outcomes with Amy Michalski and Shelly Strickland of AIIM
Q: What change in offerings helped AIIM better meet learner needs?
Amy and Shelly describe shifting from a pure content library to outcomes-focused education, including cohort-based events, hands-on workshops, and senior-level programs, which aligns with what learners actually want and increases conversion.
482: Leading with Outcomes with Amy Michalski and Shelly Strickland of AIIM
Q: What role does segmentation and nurturing play in moving someone from awareness to enrollment?
Shelly emphasizes intentional nurturing, behavioral and topic-based segmentation, and timely follow-ups based on engagement history to convert interested individuals into members or customers, including trial offers and region-specific events.
482: Leading with Outcomes with Amy Michalski and Shelly Strickland of AIIM
Q: How does AIIM differentiate its marketing for individual learners versus corporate buyers?
Amy explains that they segment by audience needs, tailoring messaging and offers for both one-to-one outreach to organizations (like workshops and team training) and personalized content for individual learners, often leveraging partnerships to serve large audiences.
480: Learning Isn't Content with Dr. Tessa Forshaw
Q: What practical steps can learning businesses take to improve transfer when they don't control the managers, or when learning happens in the flow of work?
Surface learners' existing knowledge as assets, involve managers more intentionally, and design learning experiences that map new skills to a variety of real-world contexts to encourage broad transfer.

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What is Leading Learning Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show targets professionals in the learning business who navigate continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning. Episodes routinely explore governance, pricing, portfolio management, and the shift from traditional content to outcomes-driven, experiential learning ecosystems. Guests range from association leaders and educators to learning-technologies executives, offering practical frameworks for strategy, governance, and market positioning. The format tends to mix rigorous use of data with real-world case studies, making it valuable for listeners who want actionable insights to scale learning offerings and improve learner outcomes. A notable strength is the strong focus on governance, sustainability, and the busin... more

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1. Steven Khraiss
2. Artesha Moore
3. Denise Roosendaal
4. Amy Michalski
5. Shelly Strickland
6. Panos Siozos
7. Dr. Tessa Forshaw
8. Eric Ries

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