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In Lieu of Fun: #DogShirtTV

Benjamin Wittes and Kate Klonick
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It started with a coronavirus crisis. We thought people might need something to do in lieu of fun. And some people might need someone to yap at them as they go through this. We have a lot of cool friends. So we started a show. Then the crisis ended. But by then I was wearing dog shirts every day. And the the rest was the rest.

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Wherein Holly Berkley Fletcher returns to the show to discuss everything on her mind, including book awards, petty feuds, and very unsympathetic South Africans.

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Matt Olson
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John Hawkinson
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Anastasiia Lapatina
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Hosts

Ben Wittes
Co-host and commentator with legal and policy expertise; anchors discussions and interacts with guests.
Holly
Co-host who drives segments, engages audiences, and adds personal and cultural humor to discussions.
Mike Feinberg
Co-host bringing legal commentary and practical perspectives to conversations.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 95 ratings
  • It’s a Blast

    Birthright citizenship made interesting along with an explanation of a psychotic executive in 3 minutes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pudelmom
    United Statesa month ago
  • Excellent South Africa

    Excellent and timely topic Holly & Ben!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pudelmom
    United Statesa year ago
  • Talk Radio

    Brian proves my point. I don’t watch Dog Shirt TV live. I listen to the podcast version at a day & time convenient to me based on the topic.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pudelmom
    United Statesa year ago
  • Without An Audience

    Thanks for providing the podcast version, with or without an audience. I never know if it will be informative or fun, but Ben’s witticisms always exist.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pudelmom
    United Statesa year ago
  • Greek Chorus

    Interesting concepts and people are put in a blender. Pour into a large Tervis and sip during breakfast. You never know what it will taste like; however, it will be different!

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    5
    Pudelmom
    United Statesa year ago

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The format blends serious analysis with entertaining banter, making topics approachable.
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Public opinion is fragmented; while the war boosted support among some, a majority opposes Netanyahu continuing as PM, and coalition dynamics depend on Arab party participation and broader political realignments.
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Q: How should we understand the regime evolution from father to son, and is this regime change or evolution within the same system?
There is policy continuity and organizational persistence across leadership changes; the core regime structure remains intact, suggesting evolution rather than abrupt regime change, though the new leadership may alter tactics and proxies.
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Q: So how is the state functioning in the current situation and how united are they?
The system remains functional with a bureaucratic structure that continues to operate even after leadership changes; while there is internal debate, crises tend to consolidate the regime and push it to act more cohesively in the short term.
The Civil Rights Division with Quinta Jurecic
Q: Can you explain how the Civil Rights Division has changed under Harmeet Dhillon and what that means for reactive civil rights work?
The piece argues that the division has pivoted away from traditional reactive cases, with staffing hollowing out and a reorientation toward culture-war issues, such as DEI-related enforcement, and university policies, which has reduced the division's capacity to respond to urgent civil rights violations.
Texas Politics with Deece Eckstein
Q: How do you explain the resilience of Governor Abbott's support in a challenging Republican year?
Abbott maintains a broad electoral base in Texas due to a combination of strong party infrastructure, alignment with key donor and donor-advised interests, and a political environment that still favors incumbents in statewide races, even as some voters express fatigue with established leadership.

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This program blends sharp policy and legal analysis with irreverent humor and casual audience banter, often anchored by two regular hosts and frequent expert guests. Episodes cover national security, legal investigations, and political developments, while weaving in pop culture references and personal anecdotes. A recurring thread is civil discourse and critical thinking in a polarized landscape, paired with a distinctive, playful community vibe—evident in the host duo's chemistry, the ongoing dog-shirt motif, and a willingness to mix serious topics with lighthearted moments. Potential listeners can expect thoughtful insights on government power, law, and current events delivered in an accessible, conversational style that invites participa... more

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