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CZ and Friends

Cecilia Ziniti
Legal Technology
Legal Leadership
Cybersecurity
Compliance
Healthcare
Artificial Intelligence
Change Management
Leadership
AI Technology
Mergers and Acquisitions
Trust
Cannabis Industry
Quantum Computing
Expel
Xero
Legal Compliance
Legal Strategy
AI In Legal
Risk Management
General Counsel

CZ & Friends is a podcast about what it takes to lead and evolve legal in an era of exponential change. Hosted by Cecilia Ziniti, former General Counsel turned founder and CEO of GC AI, each episode features candid conversations with legal and business leaders who are building for scale, taking bold bets on technology, and leading with humanity. Whether you're a GC, operator, or in-house counsel, ... more

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David Schellhase has been general counsel at three public companies - Salesforce, Groupon, and Slack - and he's learned that great in-house lawyering is less about knowing every law and more about knowing your company's risk appetit... more

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Bjarne Tellmann spent 30 years as a general counsel at Haleon, Pearson, Coca-Cola, and Aramco. Now, as CEO of FjordStream Advisors and author of "Law in the Era of AI" (Wiley), he argues that the disruption of the law firm model wil... more

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How does a legal operations team at a global semiconductor company cut contract request time by 73%, earn a seat at the CLO's staff table, and build board-level analytics, all while keeping pace with AI?

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What if the best thing a lawyer could do is figure out how to make themselves obsolete?

Jimmy Toy, Chief Legal Officer at Articore Group (the company behind Redbubble and TeePublic), has been using AI and machine learning in legal ... more

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Recent Guests

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Growth company executive with over three decades in technology, law, and leadership.
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Mallun Yen
Founder and CEO of Operator Collective
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Matt Gipple
Former General Counsel of Cruise and co-founder of Dryvebox
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Episode: Leaving the GC Seat: Matt Gipple of Dryvebox on Product Judgment, Regulation, and Becoming a Founder
Maury Bricks
General Counsel of ARCO Corp and GPM Investments
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Episode: From One Lawyer to Fortune 500: Maury Bricks & Michele Murray of GPM Investments on Building Trust and AI-Ready Legal
Michele Murray
Associate General Counsel at ARCO, focusing on real estate and corporate work
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Episode: From One Lawyer to Fortune 500: Maury Bricks & Michele Murray of GPM Investments on Building Trust and AI-Ready Legal
Danielle Sheer
Chief Trust Officer and Chief Legal and Compliance Officer at Commvault, a global leader in data protection and cyber resilience.
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Episode: From Skeptic to Strategist: Danielle Sheer of Commvault on Trust, AI, and the Future of Legal Leadership
Rebecca Fike
Chambers Ranked Enforcement Lawyer and Partner at Reed Smith, former Senior Counsel at the SEC
Reed Smith
Episode: Facts Don’t Lie: SEC Insights, AI Risk and Keeping Law Human with Rebecca Fike of Reed Smith
Holly Hogan
Legal executive known for helping innovative companies scale while navigating novel legal challenges.
Deepgram
Episode: Original by Design: Deepgram GC Holly Hogan on AI Guardrails and Leading with Authenticity
Nicole Altman
Senior Counsel at Instacart, leading AI governance, privacy, security, and IP.
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Episode: Instacart Legal: Making AI Everyday Practice

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Cecilia Ziniti
Host of CZ & Friends

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 12 ratings
  • Like “How I Built This” but for legal nerds

    CZ makes law feel cool (finally). Smart guests, spicy questions, and real talk about AI, careers, and scaling without losing your soul. 10/10 would subpoena again

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    GreatExpectations!!!
    United States10 months ago
  • Great addition to the Legal Tech blogosphere

    Three strong voices discussing how to innovate and scale. Well worth a listen if you are a tech GC.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Julian New York
    United States10 months ago

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CZ creates law-forward conversations with smart guests and sharp questions.
Insightful take on leadership and AI in the legal world; highly actionable for practitioners.
A strong mix of guests; great for staying informed on legal tech and AI.

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Lawyers and Outsiders as Founders: The Operator Mindset with Mallun Yen of Operator Collective
Q: Is there anything that you had to shed?
Mallun reflects on how she viewed herself as just a lawyer and had to evolve to embrace her business role.
Becoming the GC Without Losing Your Life with Joseph Schohl of Inside Counsel Academy
Q: What did you find most challenging about stepping into a General Counsel role?
The real challenge was maintaining credibility while still learning the business during high-stakes moments.
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Q: How did you get there when you first walked into the job?
I was sent to New York to help swing a big acquisition deal right away on my first day.
Facts Don’t Lie: SEC Insights, AI Risk and Keeping Law Human with Rebecca Fike of Reed Smith
Q: What's the takeaway about companies using AI?
Companies are often claiming to use AI when they aren't, leading to disclosures that can be considered fraud.
Facts Don’t Lie: SEC Insights, AI Risk and Keeping Law Human with Rebecca Fike of Reed Smith
Q: What drew you to the work at the SEC in the first place?
I wanted to do securities-based work, which was not available in Austin at the time, and the SEC had ample opportunities in that field.

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CZ & Friends explores leadership and evolution of legal teams amid accelerating change. Episodes center on how GCs, in-house counsel, and legal operators partner with tech, scale organizations, and navigate AI, governance, and risk with humanity at the forefront. Listeners likely include senior legal professionals and tech-enabled teams seeking practical leadership insights, deal with regulatory complexity, and strategies for building trusted, high-performance legal functions in growth environments.

A standout angle is the emphasis on human-centered leadership, cross-functional collaboration, and the practical use of AI tools in legal operations. The show blends personal career journeys with strategic guidance for scaling legal in tech-dri... more

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