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For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and ... more

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Latest Episodes

Can American Jews define themselves through love of both Israel and America?

In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi unpack a parade transformed by October 7, Mamdani's boycott, and how a historically innocuous parade has transformed... more

Can a country recover its sense of agency when every front — external and internal — refuses to stay resolved?

In this episode, recorded just as Prime Minister Netanyahu issued another emergency call-up of exhausted reservists, Donniel Hartman and Y... more

Is it possible to win every battle and still lose where it matters?

In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi confront what may be the most dangerous front Israel faces today — the narrative. They lay bare the forces converging against... more

What do you say when defending yourself only makes things worse?

In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi respond in real time to Nicholas Kristof's New York Times column accusing Israel of systemic sexual abuse of Palestinian detaine... more

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Recent Guests

Yair Lapid
Former journalist and Prime Minister, leader of the opposition in the Israeli Knesset.
Episode: Israel at War – A Conversation with Yair Lapid

Hosts

Donniel Hartman
Host of the show, co-lead with Yossi; leads discussion on moral questions in Israeli society; affiliated with Shalom Hartman Institute / Ark Media.
Yossi Klein Halevi
Co-host discussing religious Zionism and moral implications; hosts the show with Donniel Hartman; central voice on Jewish thought and Israeli society.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 820 ratings
  • Let Yossi Talk

    The long running relationship between the hosts is part of what makes this show great. But there’s something wrong with the way Donniel dominates the conversation. I hope this power dynamic isn’t part of their friendship in real life.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Tzirlgirl
    United Statesa month ago
  • Emotional Nonsense Detached From Real World Nuance

    Every once in a while I decide to torture myself and listen to these two spouting nonsense void of nuance and logic. If emotional arguments are your thing then this show is for you. If you want nuance, logic, and strategic arguments find something else.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    JabsUT
    United States2 months ago
  • Wonderful

    I absolutely love listening to Yossi and Donniel they are knowledgeable and insightful. Listening to this podcast is a highlight of me and I look forward to every episode. Thank you for keeping me company on my journeys through the day

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Irenas3
    United States2 months ago
  • Great discussions

    I appreciate the conversations. Please don’t talk over each other. It’s unpleasant for listeners. I understand you’re both passionate about the topics.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    pepper80202
    United States3 months ago
  • Pro war propaganda

    Hosts twist themselves into pretzels to back an unwarranted attack on civilians.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    zeamays
    United States3 months ago

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Critiques highlight occasional negative framing or perceived bias in discussing Israel.
Some reviewers feel the hosts interrupt or dominate the conversation at times.
The show is valued for its deep engagement with Israeli politics and Jewish identity.
Listeners praise balanced, insightful dialogue that probes tough issues thoughtfully.
Fans note the thoughtful exploration of morality within current events.

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After the Joy
Q: What do you think it means for Israeli society in the long run?
It was a day when we reminded ourselves of what this country can be when we're not at each other's throats.
After the Joy
Q: What does 'home' mean to you?
Home is where I feel part of a 3,000-year-old story and a 3,000-year-old people.
After the Joy
Q: What was going through your mind or your soul or your heart?
I felt this overwhelming sensation of gratitude to be an Israeli.
Famine
Q: What do you think you're doing when you're creating a siege?
It sets the stage for a humanitarian crisis and we must confront the moral failures behind it.
Famine
Q: How do you understand this moment that we're in right now?
It's a complex moment filled with both practical and moral questions, reflecting a profound disconnect in understanding the humanitarian crisis.

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A thoughtful, civically engaged discussion centered on moral questions in Israeli society, Zionism, and world Jewry. Across episodes, the hosts wrestle with leadership, legitimacy, national trauma, and the balance between security and democratic values, often weaving in religious insight and diaspora perspectives. The format tends to blend philosophical reflection with current events, producing nuanced debates that aim to model constructive disagreement for a broad Jewish and global audience. Noteworthy is the show's willingness to tackle painful topics—war, settlement issues, and identity—while offering a measured, values-driven lens that seeks common ground without sacrificing insight or candor.

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