
Hosted by Matt Klein, creator of Envoy and co-founder of bitdrift, Beyond the Noise goes inside the minds of the engineers, founders, and technical leaders defining the next era of app-based computing. Forget the buzzwords — this is where the people shaping modern systems share how they really build, debug, and scale.
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 26 | Founded | a year ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Category | Technology | |||

Beau Button, the straight shooting co-founder who doesn't mince words (fair content warning for language on this one!) grew up in New Orleans tinkering with QuickBASIC on a neighbor's IBM PS/2. Years later, he would co-found Atlas Reality, the compan... more
In this episode, Matt talks with David Crawshaw, co-founder and CTO of Tailscale and co-founder and CEO of exe.dev. David's love of computers started in northern Australia, where he taught himself to program by hacking on the Clipper-based medical re... more
Randy Shoup's path into software started before he was born. His father, Richard Shoup, was one of the earliest computer science PhDs in the country and part of the original crew at Xerox PARC, where he built Superpaint, the world's first digital pai... more
Joe Beda has been on the frontlines of a changing industry for many years. From shipping Internet Explorer on physical CDs at Microsoft in the mid-'90s, to helping stand up Google Compute Engine and Google Cloud Storage, co-creating Kubernetes, found... more
Charity Majors, co-founder and CTO of Honeycomb and co-author of Observability Engineering and Database Reliability Engineering, sits down to talk about how AI is forcing a rethink of observability, engineering practice, and the "three pillars" model... more
Dillon TenBrink, distinguished engineer at The Home Depot, joins Matt to trace an unusual path into the industry: farm kid from central California, no college, straight into Bay Area startups at 19, then dot-com bust, seven or eight years inside a re... more
Cedric Beust, creator of TestNG and JCommander, one of the early members of the Android team, and the engineer behind the original Android Gmail app, joins Matt to trace 20+ years of mobile from the inside. He walks through building Gmail for J2ME fe... more
Aaron He, Director of Engineering for Tinder's Client Platform team, joins Matt Klein to trace a decade of mobile engineering at scale, from writing Xamarin apps in C# to native Android, and into today's debates over React Native and Kotlin Multiplat... more
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The show centers on engineering leadership, infrastructure, and practical building of scalable systems. Episodes repeatedly explore real-world challenges in cloud platforms, distributed systems, observability, mobile and web performance, and the evolving role of AI in engineering. Guests tend to be senior technologists, founders, and engineers who have led large-scale programs at major companies or built influential open-source projects. Noteworthy throughlines include candid career journeys, concrete lessons from scaling teams and platforms, and thoughtful takes on tooling, culture, and the future of software engineering. The format often blends historical context with forward-looking insights, making it particularly valuable for listeners... more
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