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Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making

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Asbestos
Mesothelioma
Pliny the Elder
Prester John
Ancient Civilizations
Finland
Pottery
Cyprus
Salvadoran Cloth
Strabo
History Of Asbestos
Corporate Conspiracy
Cancer Rates
Lingering Diseases
Monte Cassino
Historiography
Mercury
Egypt
Bronze Age
Salamanders

They knew. They always knew.

Nearly 2,000 years ago, Roman historian Pliny the Elder documented asbestos workers dying from "sickness of the lungs"—watching slaves fashion crude respirators from animal bladders while weaving what he called "funeral dress for kings." The people closest to the dust understood the danger. The people farthest away admired the spectacle, collected the profits, and bur... more

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Episode 15: The Body Count Begins

It's 1890 in Normandy, France. Paul Fleury recruits 17 cotton workers to process asbestos. Sixteen die—a 94% mortality rate that inspectors won't document for 16 years. Meanwhile, Lucy Deane, one of Britain's first ... more

Episode 14: The Workers Nobody Counted

Between 1880 and 1920, asbestos companies tracked production to the tenth of a pound but recorded zero occupational disease deaths. They documented every fatal accident with names and ages—but workers dying fro... more

Episode 13: The Magic Mineral Goes Mainstream

How did asbestos go from industrial hazard to kitchen staple? By 1958, the U.S. Geological Survey counted over 3,000 applications—from ceiling tiles to cigarette filters delivering 131 million fibers per... more

Episode 12: Raybestos and the Brake Pad Revolution

Did the auto industry know brake dust was killing mechanics? By 1935, yes—and they agreed to stay quiet. On October 1, 1935, Raybestos president Sumner Simpson wrote to Johns-Manville: "I think the ... more

Episode 11: The Corporate Architects

Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making

In 1898, a British government inspector described asbestos particles as "sharp, glass-like, jagged" and documented workers dying from lung disease. That same year... more

Episode 10: The Mines Open

Arc 3: The Industrial Revolution — Premiere Episode

How did a 'miracle fix' for deadly boiler explosions become a century-long catastrophe? In 1880, 159 boilers exploded in a single year—killing workers and bystanders wit... more

When did science finally kill the salamander myth? Not in 1646, when Thomas Browne published his famous debunking—the myth was already dead by then. Renaissance physicians had been burning salamanders and publishing the results since 1537. Browne's c... more

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In 1298, Marco Polo named his source: a Turkish mining supervisor called Zurficar who spent three years directing asbestos operations for Kublai Khan. There's just one problem — Zurficar appears in no Chinese, Persian, or Mongol records.... more

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 6 ratings
  • Impactful

    An easy listen to follow with good information.

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    Lizz0321
    United States3 months ago
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    Very educational! I loved it!

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    Abrego84
    United States3 months ago
  • Mind-Blowing History, Life-Saving Info!

    This podcast rewrites everything I thought I knew about asbestos. Must-Listen

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    Matthew Bertram
    United States3 months ago
  • Wow!!! Very Educational

    I just thought I knew it all about the threat of asbestos. This is very eye-opening and educational about exactly how bad it is.

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    United States3 months ago

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Episode 6: What the Ancients Left Behind
Q: How do we know ancient asbestos was real?
Multiple independent writers documented its properties and use, consistent with the evidence from archaeological finds, especially pottery.
Episode 6: What the Ancients Left Behind
Q: Where is the mesothelioma? Where are the ancient cases? Why don't we find it in mummies or skeletons?
Mesothelioma does not leave skeletal traces, and soft tissue rarely survives in mummies. No one has specifically searched for asbestos-related disease in ancient remains.
Episode 3: Sacred Fire — When Asbestos Became Divine
Q: So, where did they get it?
Pliny thought it came from India, described as a plant growing in the desert that could survive intense heat.
Episode 3: Sacred Fire — When Asbestos Became Divine
Q: But Rome did use asbestos. Right?
Oh, absolutely. Just not for Vesta, but for party tricks involving napkins and other items.
Episode 3: Sacred Fire — When Asbestos Became Divine
Q: So how did it work? Like mechanically?
The asbestos wick didn't consume itself like ordinary wicks do, which allowed the flame to keep burning while the oil slowly depleted.

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This podcast provides a detailed examination of asbestos, a mineral with a complex history spanning over 4,500 years. It explores the ancient uses of asbestos, including its role in rituals and as a luxurious material in Rome and Greece, while shedding light on the darker side of its legacy—corporate negligence, health hazards, and the ongoing fight against asbestos-related illnesses. Episodes feature historical anecdotes, scientific insights, and a critical look at the industrial cover-ups that have persisted from ancient times to the modern day. Through in-depth narratives, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of how a once-celebrated material has led to widespread suffering and litigation, emphasizing that the consequences of its use c... more

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