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All of the Above Podcast

All of the Above
Public Education
Education
Trump Administration
Artificial Intelligence
Student Engagement
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Educational Equity
Ethnic Studies
Chronic Absenteeism
Education Policy
LGBTQ Rights
California
Racism
Los Angeles Unified School District
Palestine
AI In Education
Eaton Fire
Harvard University
Book Bans
Critical Race Theory

Welcome to All of the Above, the show that gives you an un-standardized take on education! We're your home for news and analysis of all the complex, relevant, and controversial issues impacting our schools today. Hosted by the super-dope duo of history teacher Dr. Manuel Rustin and principal-leader Jeffrey Garrett, two Black male lifelong educators based in Los Angeles. This is the podcast version... more

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This Week: Few things have gotten more people in America to have a (hopefully) substantive conversation about the core issue of segregation in American public education than has this phenomenal article by the legendary Nikole Hannah Jones in the NY T... more

This Week: Who knew the plastics industry was infiltrating K-12 science curricula with lessons that help kids do things like pretending to be an employee of Dow Chemical and building a better plastic bag, or understanding the ubiquitous and positive ... more

This Week: It has been a busy few weeks of stories in education, so we begin with a lightning round of headlines covering everything from a hero teacher saving 900 students in Nepal, to the Catholic Bishops in Florida telling the attorney general to ... more

Today on AOTA Shorts: Varsity Tutors for Schools, one of the nation’s largest virtual tutoring providers, has abruptly closed up shop. Citing a lack of evidence of effectiveness, it appears their district partners had begun seeking other providers. A... more

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Kevin Adams
Educator, Too Dope Teachers and a Mic (past guest)
Too Dope Teachers and a Mic
Episode: Is Bloom’s Due for An Upgrade In the Age of AI?
Genevieve DeBose
Educator, artist, and activist with over 25 years of teaching experience.
Episode: The BOY Episode - Starting the School Year with Resilience and Trepidation w/Genevieve DeBose
Joe Truss
Racial equity coach and consultant; founder of Truss Leadership; committed to centering the success of marginalized communities in schools.
Truss Leadership
Episode: #117 - The DEI Backlash w/Joe Truss!
Jesse Hagopian
Educator, author, activist, and co-founder of Black Lives Matter at School
Black Lives Matter at School
Episode: #116 - Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education w/ Jesse Hagopian!
Kirk Carapezza
Managing editor and correspondent for Higher Ed at GBH News, and co-host of College Uncovered.
GBH News
Episode: #115 - College Uncovered w/ Kirk Carapezza of GBH News!
Dr. Heather Harding
Executive Director of the Campaign for Our Shared Future, focused on defending K-12 public education
Campaign for Our Shared Future
Episode: #114 - Fighting Back Against the Attacks on Public Education w/ Dr. Heather Harding!
Priten Shah
CEO of Pedagogy.Cloud; expert in AI and education
Pedagogy.Cloud
Episode: #113 - The Promise and Dangers of A.I. in Education with Priten Shah!
Dr. Anthony Muhammad
Nationally and internationally known speaker and expert on professional learning communities
Solution Tree
Episode: #112 - The Way Forward for PLCs with Dr. Anthony Muhammad!

Hosts

Manuel Rustin
Host of All of the Above Podcast; educator and history teacher with deep background in public education.
Jeffrey Garrett
Co-host, Principal-Leader; educator and administrator with focus on school leadership and equity.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 78 ratings
  • Perspective

    I appreciate the news and perspective the hosts offer! Especially regarding AI, where far too few podcasts look into potential damages and negative impact on students and teachers. Thanks for keeping it real!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Zvbxrpl799
    United States6 months ago
  • I look forward to these ALL THE TIME

    Been listening since 2020 and I haven’t missed a beat. Thanks to ya’ll, I feel like the best educator on campus! I’m Always on top of the current news in education.

    I appreciate you both for providing the motivation and powerful words of wisdom from the top individuals in the field. Thanks to this podcast, I’m more determined to pursue an Ed.D and help take a stand with ya’ll.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Airspoke
    United States2 years ago
  • The Palestinian Experience is a MUST LISTEN TO EPISODE

    There is so much in this episode that we as educators, parents and concerned citizens of the world can think deeply about in order to begin disrupting the indoctrination that cloaks us all in the agenda to dehumanize in order to colonize… Colonize our minds. Colonize our agency. Colonize humanity. Thank you for this episode and the content within.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    msogarro
    United States3 years ago
  • Top 10 Education Podcast

    I never miss an Ep of AOTA. The hosts are awesome and the topics deep and timely. It’s easily in the top 10 education podcasts out there. I’m ready for an AOTA basketball mini Ep 😀

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    Dr. Dunnski
    United States3 years ago
  • Love AOTA!

    I never miss an episode! AOTA brings perspective, insight and depth to issues facing public education. I always leave the episode with renewed sense of purpose and clarity. Teaching is tough and isolating, and AOTA provides a sense of community in the common struggle.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jomama7747
    United States3 years ago

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Excellent guests and perspectives on equity and ABAR in schools.
Thoughtful, data-informed discussions on education with real-world classroom relevance.
High-quality, credible analysis from experienced educators with practical takeaways.

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So Much for Chromebooks -- Los Angeles Moves to Limit Screen Time in Schools
Q: How many minutes of screen time are being proposed for high school students, and what are the practical implications for classrooms?
They acknowledge the resolution does not specify exact minute caps in this episode and express a desire for clear, implementable guidance, along with emphasis on a robust plan, teacher collaboration time, and resources to sustain engaging, non-screen-based instruction.
AOTA Special: Interview with Jesse Hagopian, author of the new book Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education
Q: What do you think we might take from this concept of radical healing of organized remembering, knowing we're perhaps walking into an era of escalating attacks and threats against public education?
The radical healing of organized remembering identifies collective efforts in education and social movements to uncover historical lessons vital for recovering from trauma and building healthy struggles for social justice.
AOTA Special: Interview with Jesse Hagopian, author of the new book Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education
Q: Before we even talk to you about the book, which we're very excited to get into, we just want to check in with you. How are you doing? How have these years been for you?
It's been a struggle as well. I got long COVID two and a half years ago, and I'm still struggling with the effects of it. But I also feel incredibly blessed to be part of a struggle like all the people who are in this movement for honest education.
#112 - The Way Forward for PLCs with Dr. Anthony Muhammad!
Q: What should school system leaders focus on to support educators?
Important behaviors include ensuring coherence in educational practices and providing teachers with the freedom to experiment and adapt their methods.
#112 - The Way Forward for PLCs with Dr. Anthony Muhammad!
Q: What are your thoughts on the connection between equity and professional learning communities?
Dr. Muhammad explains that equity work focuses on providing students with the necessary resources to achieve learning targets, while social justice involves addressing historical barriers and discrimination in education.

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Two veteran educators based in Los Angeles drive a sharp, outcome-oriented look at education policy, classroom equity, and the practical realities of schooling. Episodes frequently tackle current events, race and equity in schools, teacher working conditions, and the impact of technology like AI on learning, with a strong emphasis on actionable critique and real-world experience from K-12 and higher education. The show stands out for its candid dialogue, lively chemistry between hosts, and guests that illuminate policy, pedagogy, and community implications. Listeners can expect thoughtful debates, practical takeaways for educators and administrators, and a clear commitment to student-centered, justice-oriented schooling.

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2. Genevieve DeBose
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5. Kirk Carapezza
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