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What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the... more

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Recent Guests

Ned Blackhawk
Historian, Western Shoshone, Yale University; former tenured professor
Yale University / University of Minnesota
Episode: The story we don't tell about how this country was founded
Sophie Hurwitz
Reporter for Mother Jones covering Delaney Hall strikes
Mother Jones
Episode: The hunger strike ICE says never happened
José Olivares
Independent investigative journalist who has reported on immigration detention
The Guardian
Episode: The hunger strike ICE says never happened
John Eligo
Johannesburg Bureau Chief for The New York Times
The New York Times
Episode: The 'white genocide' myth is shaping immigration policy
Daisy Hernández
Author of Citizenship Notes on an American Myth
Northwestern University
Episode: What happens if the US ends birthright citizenship?
Adrienne Marie Brown
Author of Pleasure Activism, writer and activist
Author, Pleasure Activism
Episode: When is joy actually resistance?
Kelly Carter-Jackson
Historian, chair of Africana Studies at Wellesley College
Wellesley College
Episode: When is joy actually resistance?
Natalie Moore
Chicago native, long-time reporter and editor in Chicago, teaches journalism at Northwestern University
Chicago Tribune? (mentioned as journalist on Code Switch episode)
Episode: Obama's new Presidential Center and his tricky relationship with the South Side
Maira Khwaja
Writer, educator, multimedia producer
Invisible Institute
Episode: Obama's new Presidential Center and his tricky relationship with the South Side

Hosts

Gene Demby
Co-host/host with NPR background; central voice in race and culture conversations
Parker BA
Host with focus on race, culture, and social policy discussions

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 18.4k ratings
  • A different point of view

    I started listening to this show around the time of the Black Lives Matter movement. I wanted another point of view. I’m just here to listen and think about the conversation. I really like the subjects, hosts and guests. I look forward to new episodes. Totally recommend it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Andy from Middlesex
    United Statesa month ago
  • Never disappoints

    No matter what the topic is the discussion is stellar. This is a great show! The world would be better if everyone listened.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    EquityAndJusticeNow
    United Statesa month ago
  • Wow so racist

    Your reporters have never heard of conservative Latinos? Mind boggling or purposefully deceitful. Instead of projecting their racist views, they should have been upfront on the normalcy—can’t believe I have to say this—if the Hispanic conservatives. It’s as if Northern Mexico, El Salvador, Chile, Argentina, etc don’t exist.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Spypit
    United Statesa month ago
  • Provocative Topics

    This is one of my favorite Podcasts. The topics covered are thought provoking and bridges racial & generational lines. My only “complaint” is for Gene to slow down his speech. I am from the Northeast myself and as a NYer I admit that we tend to speak very fast however when you’re in podcasting a slower pace would be helpful for the listeners.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    *Jaybyrd10
    United States2 months ago
  • Deep and thought-provoking reporting especially in the past year!

    I almost feel the episodes have gotten better in the wake of the 2024 backlash to social progressivism - deeper, more nuanced, dealing more with real policy issues than the relative fluff of DEI and “implicit bias”. You remind us that racial discrimination is real and tangible and structural. As a woman this is exactly the discourse we need more of. And thank you for telling it like it is throughout 2025, when so many media outlets tended towards “both-siding” everything.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ConfusedAcademic
    United States2 months ago

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The story we don't tell about how this country was founded
Q: How did we all miss that Native people were central to the founding?
By focusing on the prose of independence and Enlightenment ideals, we overlooked the coercive and violent practices against Indigenous nations and the explicit references to Indigenous groups in the founding documents, which reveals why Native peoples have been erased from conventional histories.
The 'white genocide' myth is shaping immigration policy
Q: What does the data say about the actual scale of violence against Afrikaners in South Africa?
Police statistics show that farm murders are a small portion of overall violence, and when counted, the killings of Afrikaners do not align with a genocide narrative; even if some Afrikaners feel threatened, experts emphasize the need to distinguish symbolic fears from verified data and not equate them with a national genocide.
The 'white genocide' myth is shaping immigration policy
Q: In your reporting, how did the white genocide idea move from fringe circles to high-level attention in the White House?
It began with fringe Afrikaner activists lobbying in the U.S. and meeting with conservative media figures; then conservative pundits like Tucker Carlson amplified the narrative, which eventually entered executive discussions through mentions in staff conversations, leading to privately discussed concerns and later public references by Trump.
The hunger strike ICE says never happened
Q: Could you tell us where Delaney Hall is and what's happening there?
Delaney Hall is in Newark, New Jersey. It is an ICE detention center run by the private company GeoGroup where detainees organized hunger and labor strikes protesting conditions, wages, and oversight.
As the definition of “terrorist” expands, so does state violence
Q: What does it mean when something is labeled a terrorist organization or a terrorist threat, and how does that affect civil liberties?
The guests discuss how labeling groups as terrorists justifies extraordinary government power, including secret evidence and extended surveillance, and how it erodes due process and civil liberties when applied domestically against protesters or immigrant communities.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Code Switch

What is Code Switch about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show continually surfaces nuanced conversations about race, culture, and power, balancing historical analysis with contemporary relevance. Episodes frequently blend expert voices—from academics and journalists to educators and cultural critics—with personal stories to explore how race shapes politics, media, education, and everyday life. A notable edge is its willingness to tackle controversial topics—ranging from DEI debates to voting rights and Black masculinity—while maintaining a thoughtful, often data-informed lens and a hopeful call for deeper understanding across audiences.

A standout aspect is the presence of diverse guests who bring scholarly insight, on-the-ground reporting, and cultural critique, creating rich, multi-perspe... more

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5. Daisy Hernández
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8. Natalie Moore

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