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A Special Education Teacher, Administrator and Lawyer walk into a bar....all you ever wanted to know about special education

Robin Fabiano, Abigail Hanscom, Angela Smagula
Special Education
Food Allergies
Love On the Spectrum
Mental Health
IQ Testing
Student Behavioral Challenges
Transition Services
504 Plans
Individualized Education Programs (ieps)
Teacher Shortage
Covid-19
FAPE
Disabilities
Down Syndrome
IDEA
Education Law
Massachusetts
School Policies
Functional Curriculum
Compensatory Services

In this podcast, we hope to share information, lessons learned, interviews with VIPs in the field of special education. Join Robin Fabiano, Abby Hanscom and Angela Smagula as they bring diverse viewpoints and some humor to an otherwise serious topic.

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The IDEA requires that specially designed instruction be informed by research based methodologies. 

(E) supporting high-quality, intensive preservice preparation and professional development for all personnel who work with children with disabilities... more

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Welcome to Season 6! Join Abby, Angela and Robin as they kick off season 6 by celebrating the upcoming 50th birthday of the IDEA (Nov. 2025!) 

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Happy summer and best wishes to those teachers/families who are currently returning to school! Robin, Abby and Angela come together for a summer episode focusing on graduation guidance for students in MA on IEPs. 

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Recent Guests

Erika Bare
Superintendent in a small district, with over 20 years in education
Episode: Interview with Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
Tiffany Burns
Experienced educator and administrator with a focus on student needs
Episode: Interview with Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
Kathleen Browning
Speech pathologist and administrator in special education
Episode: Integrated Preschools Rock!
Jim Lange
CPA and attorney, author of financial books
Episode: Interview with Jim Lange, CPA/Attorney
Elizabeth C. Hamblet
A nationally requested speaker on preparing students with disabilities for a successful college transition.
Author of '7 Steps to College Success, A Pathway for Students with Disabilities'
Episode: 7 Steps to College Success: Interv. w/author Elizabeth C. Hamblet

Hosts

Robin Fabiano
Special education teacher and building-based student services administrator, co-host known for her insightful perspectives on education.
Abby Hanscom
District-Level Student Services Administrator and co-host who brings extensive experience in special education administration to the discussions.
Angela Smagula
Founding partner at Conn and Smagula specializing in education law, contributing legal insights on special education.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 59 ratings
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    This episode on the science of reading was so frustrating to listen to. Please, if you’re going to make a podcast episode, do it about a topic that you know and can explain. Thinking that science of reading is primarily about phonics instruction shows that you didn’t read that book and that you don’t understand what the science of reading is.

    The episode frames phonics instruction and development of background knowledge and vocabulary as an either/or, and that view is wildly inaccurate. Simply... more

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    Elbarato26
    United States6 months ago
  • So helpful!

    Thank you for your time and knowledge sharing! I loved the podcasts about the new MCAS ballot question and ESY. Keep up this great and important work :-)

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sam7316806
    United Statesa year ago
  • Fab podcast!

    Abby, Robin and Angela bring a wealth of knowledge to this topic. Each episode is the perfect mix of informative and entertaining. #bigfan!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Love the show98765
    United States2 years ago
  • Argh the music!

    I want to listen to the opening of each episode but the music makes me feel so anxious I just can’t do it!

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    carroty33
    United States3 years ago
  • A Special Education Teacher, Administrator and Lawyer Walk into a Bar

    This is an excellent podcast: informative, interesting, thought-provoking, entertaining. Robin, Abby, and Angela share what is clearly a wealth of knowledge, insight, wisdom, and firsthand experience dealing with all aspects of special education. You can tell that they love their jobs, believe down to the bone in the underlying tenets of inclusion (“.. a right, not a privilege”), and are 100% committed to the students and families with whom they work and the teachers and administrators with whom... more

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    5
    fan-o-rock
    United States5 years ago

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Some feedback indicates frustrations with certain topics, suggesting a desire for more in-depth exploration in areas like the science of reading.
Listeners appreciate the wealth of knowledge and insights provided by the hosts, highlighting both informative and entertaining discussions.
Overall, the audience is engaged and values the shared experiences and perspectives offered by the hosts, fostering a community of support and learning.

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Interview with Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
Q: Can you talk about the idea around impulses not being a choice?
It's crucial to understand that many times kids respond impulsively due to their developmental stage and not through deliberate choice; teaching them to stop and think can help manage impulsive actions.
Listener Question: Programming for Students w/Intensive Behavioral Needs AKA Inclusion is a Philosophy AND a Location
Q: At what point does the need of one student overpower the needs of the school?
The hosts explore the emotional and practical considerations while emphasizing the importance of balancing individual student needs with school resources.
REPOST: Due Process in Special Education with Angela Buchanan Smagula.
Q: Can we start with a super broad overview of kind of what due process entails within the context of special education?
Due process is a legal procedure that allows parents and guardians to challenge decisions regarding their child's IEP or 504 plans, ensuring their right to education.
IQ Test Debate
Q: What would you advise a parent of a child of color who is seeking an outside evaluation, comes back with a low IQ test score, and is concerned about their child's education?
Match the IQ test results with curriculum-based measures, observe the child in school, and discuss at the school meeting for a more comprehensive view.
Interview with Jim Lange, CPA/Attorney
Q: What are the three critical steps parents should take for planning financially for their children with disabilities?
The three steps are to qualify the child for government benefits like SSI or SSDI, get their estate planning right including special needs trusts, and optimize Roth IRA conversions.

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Engaging topics around special education form the core content, featuring narratives that encompass challenges, innovations, and critical discussions within the field. The discussions often revolve around legislation, educational standards, and practical strategies for supporting students with disabilities. The hosts utilize their diverse backgrounds as educators and lawyers to present unique insights, making complex subjects accessible to their audience. They share personal anecdotes and invite guests who provide additional perspectives, seeking to foster a community centered around education and advocacy for students with special needs.

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