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A Special Education Teacher, Administrator and Lawyer walk into a bar....all you ever wanted to know about special education

Robin Fabiano, Abigail Hanscom, Angela Smagula
Special Education
Food Allergies
Love On the Spectrum
Mental Health
IQ Testing
Student Behavioral Challenges
Transition Services
504 Plans
Individualized Education Programs (ieps)
Covid-19
Teacher Shortage
FAPE
Disabilities
Down Syndrome
IDEA
Education Law
Massachusetts
School Policies
Functional Curriculum
Mainstreaming Students With Disabilities

In this podcast, we hope to share information, lessons learned, interviews with VIPs in the field of special education. Join Robin Fabiano, Abby Hanscom and Angela Smagula as they bring diverse viewpoints and some humor to an otherwise serious topic.

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Have you seen this apple accessibility video? In our 1st episode back in season 6, Abby, Robin and Angela talk about the cool tools out there supporting students at the college level and if they are accommodations if they are universally available to... more

Listen in as Angela, Robin and Abby discuss two big dates in November and December - the actual 50th Birthday of the IDEA and National Inclusive Schools Week 2025. Here are some links related to both events and a link to help you identify who your lo... more

Last week Robin, Abby and Angela were live on NASET (National Association of Special Education Teachers)'s monthly webinar for a mini pod and Q&A.  Here is the recording of that episode-  enjoy! 

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Listen in as Angela, Robin and Abby discuss the new Massachusetts regulations redefining Time Out and Seclusion. For documents related to the discussion see the link here.

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Sometimes, people lose their cool in Team meetings!! Listen in while Angela, Robin and Abby discuss strategies you can use to manage these moments in real time, intervene beforehand so they don't happen at all and follow up if they do.

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Sorry! We couldn't record this week, so please enjoy a repeat episode in which Robin and Angela discuss steps that can be taken when a student case starts to get litigous. 

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Listen in as Robin, Angela and Abby discuss Massachusetts' new Out of District Placement monitoring process and form. 

Here is a link to the newly shared form (September 2025) from the MADESE if you want to follow along.

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Listen in as Robin and Abby discuss common misconceptions about classroom  management and behavioral support. These great ideas are based on a recent Eduptopia article "7 Classroom management mistakes and the research on how to fix them" which can... more

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Recent Guests

Marilyn Vrandes
Director of Educator Engagement and Advancement at NASET
NASET
Episode: We're Thankful for YOU....and so is NASET!
Erika Bare
Superintendent in a small district, with over 20 years in education
Episode: Interview with Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
Tiffany Burns
Experienced educator and administrator with a focus on student needs
Episode: Interview with Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
Kathleen Browning
Speech pathologist and administrator in special education
Episode: Integrated Preschools Rock!
Jim Lange
CPA and attorney, author of financial books
Episode: Interview with Jim Lange, CPA/Attorney
Elizabeth C. Hamblet
A nationally requested speaker on preparing students with disabilities for a successful college transition.
Author of '7 Steps to College Success, A Pathway for Students with Disabilities'
Episode: 7 Steps to College Success: Interv. w/author Elizabeth C. Hamblet

Hosts

Robin Fabiano
A special education teacher and building-based student services administrator, bringing extensive experience in the education field, particularly in special education.
Abby Hanscom
A district-level student services administrator with a wealth of experience in implementing educational policies and supporting special education initiatives.
Angela Smagula
Founding partner at Conn and Smagula specializing in education law, she brings a legal perspective to discussions surrounding special education rights and regulations.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 60 ratings
  • Fabulous

    Excellent advice and a clear understanding of special education. The explanations were accurate, and easy to understand, making complex topics much clearer.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    justahumandog
    United Statesa month ago
  • Stimming

    What about teaching neurotypical and non-disabled peers to understand why and be more accepting of these behaviors

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ayden'smom
    United States4 months ago
  • Science of Reading

    This episode on the science of reading was so frustrating to listen to. Please, if you’re going to make a podcast episode, do it about a topic that you know and can explain. Thinking that science of reading is primarily about phonics instruction shows that you didn’t read that book and that you don’t understand what the science of reading is.

    The episode frames phonics instruction and development of background knowledge and vocabulary as an either/or, and that view is wildly inaccurate. Simply... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Elbarato26
    United States9 months ago
  • So helpful!

    Thank you for your time and knowledge sharing! I loved the podcasts about the new MCAS ballot question and ESY. Keep up this great and important work :-)

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sam7316806
    United Statesa year ago
  • Fab podcast!

    Abby, Robin and Angela bring a wealth of knowledge to this topic. Each episode is the perfect mix of informative and entertaining. #bigfan!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Love the show98765
    United States2 years ago
  • Argh the music!

    I want to listen to the opening of each episode but the music makes me feel so anxious I just can’t do it!

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    carroty33
    United States3 years ago
  • A Special Education Teacher, Administrator and Lawyer Walk into a Bar

    This is an excellent podcast: informative, interesting, thought-provoking, entertaining. Robin, Abby, and Angela share what is clearly a wealth of knowledge, insight, wisdom, and firsthand experience dealing with all aspects of special education. You can tell that they love their jobs, believe down to the bone in the underlying tenets of inclusion (“.. a right, not a privilege”), and are 100% committed to the students and families with whom they work and the teachers and administrators with whom... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    fan-o-rock
    United States5 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Feedback highlights the hosts' expertise and commitment to advocacy, inspiring many in the field of special education.
Listeners commend the podcast for its blend of humor and informative content, making complex subjects more approachable and relatable.
Some critiques point to disagreements about specific educational theories discussed, suggesting a mix of perspectives among the audience.

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

We're Thankful for YOU....and so is NASET!
Q: What are the latest or most recent Supreme Court cases that we need to know?
Recent cases focus on FAPE being individually tailored and the implications of recent court rulings such as Andrew and Mahmoud cases that impact special education rights and processes.
We're Thankful for YOU....and so is NASET!
Q: What is the legal way to switch from pullout instruction to push-in model for all students on my caseload?
Look at each student individually and use assessments. Collaborate with families and co-build a plan that allows for pilot programs to demonstrate effectiveness.
We're Thankful for YOU....and so is NASET!
Q: How do you present the concept of specially designed instruction to general education teachers?
Use a collaborative approach to co-plan lessons that include modifications for content, instruction, and assessment to support various learners in a way that emphasizes inclusive practices.
Interview with Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
Q: Can you talk about the idea around impulses not being a choice?
It's crucial to understand that many times kids respond impulsively due to their developmental stage and not through deliberate choice; teaching them to stop and think can help manage impulsive actions.
Listener Question: Programming for Students w/Intensive Behavioral Needs AKA Inclusion is a Philosophy AND a Location
Q: At what point does the need of one student overpower the needs of the school?
The hosts explore the emotional and practical considerations while emphasizing the importance of balancing individual student needs with school resources.

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This podcast provides a comprehensive exploration of topics relevant to special education through the engaging perspectives of a special education teacher, a district administrator, and an education lawyer. Key discussions revolve around the evolving landscape of special education laws, advocacy, and practical strategies for educators to navigate the complexities of individual education plans (IEPs), behavioral management, and compliance with educational regulations. The hosts share personal anecdotes, significant milestones such as the 50th anniversary of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), and answer listener questions, making the content both informative and relatable. The blend of expertise, humor, and heartfelt comm... more

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2. Erika Bare
3. Tiffany Burns
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6. Elizabeth C. Hamblet

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