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WHAT IF WE GET IT RIGHT?

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
Climate Change
Environmental Justice
Clean Energy
Environmental Law
Renewable Energy
Climate Solutions
Climate Crisis
Inflation Reduction Act
Activism
Sabin Center For Climate Change Law
PFAS
Trump Administration
Storytelling
Environmental Protection Agency
Federal Climate Funding
Climate Action
Climate Justice
Policy Change
Paris Agreement
Sustainability

A show about climate solutions, about what we need to do to address the climate crisis, and how to make those things happen — from changing laws, to electrifying buildings, to improving fashion and media. Each week an expert guest joins host Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson to break it down, delightfully, and help us all envision what getting right on climate looks like, so we can reel that vision into... more

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Recent Guests

Leah Stokes
Professor at UC Santa Barbara; author of The Carbon Wave; policy expert on energy and climate
UC Santa Barbara
Episode: Climate hushing, EVs 🔌 and creating “The Carbon Wave,” with Leah Stokes
Robin Wall Kimmerer
Botanist, teacher, earth lover, author of Braiding Sweetgrass
Citizen Potawatomi Nation; SUNY Distinguished Teaching Professor
Episode: On reciprocity, photosynthesis, and berries 🍓 with Robin Wall Kimmerer
Hannah Pingree
Maine gubernatorial candidate and climate leader
Maine political sphere
Episode: What climate leadership looks like in Maine 🌲, with Hannah Pingree
Katherine Wilkinson
Author of All We Can Save and Climate Wayfinding author and educator
All We Can Save / Climate Wayfinding
Episode: Climate Wayfinding 🧭 with Dr. Katharine Wilkinson
Dr. Heidi Roop
Climate scientist and author; director of the University of Minnesota's Climate Adaptation Partnership
University of Minnesota
Episode: For the love of nature, culture, and the future 💖 with Dr. Heidi Roop
Dream Hampton
Filmmaker and writer focused on narratives about power, justice, and climate.
Episode: Winning the narrative battle 🎥, with dream hampton
Ryan Gellert
CEO of Patagonia
Patagonia
Episode: Earth is our only shareholder 🌏, with Patagonia CEO Ryan Gellert
Dave Herring
Executive director of Wolfe's Neck Center for Agriculture and the Environment
Wolfe's Neck Center for Agriculture and the Environment
Episode: The Current Politics of Food and Farming 👨‍🌾 with Dave Herring
Jeff Goodell
Author of The Heat Will Kill You First, Life and Death on a Scorched Planet.
Writer for Rolling Stone
Episode: How to deal with the heat 🌎🥵 with Jainey Bavishi and Jeff Goodell

Host

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
Host who guides conversation and steers toward climate solutions across policy, science, and culture.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 401 ratings
  • Fantastic Podcast

    A must listen for anyone concerned about their own future, their children’s future, and the planet.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    hfjksjdksmf
    United States2 months ago
  • N.W. IN. Gardener

    We have lost our 🐞 bugs. It’s very pleasant really. No snakes or big spiders, but wow … (no shortage of poison ivy) I’m glad for your podcasts and calming strategies. It’s had a big impact on my efforts. 👍 our subdivision was built for conservation in mind. ‘Havenwood’

    -but it’s not enough. Chemical factories 15 miles away. I’m now on your listening wavelength…. 😊 👍

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mrs mc gonagall's sister
    United States4 months ago
  • Essential listening

    Everything we need to navigate today’s climate realities, with an emphasis on solutions, good humor, and rolling up our sleeves to do the work. This show gives us the tools and knowedge to solve real problems, without the noise of false hope or nihilism in the face of challenge. Love every minute and always learn something useful from each episde!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MS_climate
    United States4 months ago
  • I could not love the energy and positivity of this podcast any more!

    We have the solutions, now we need the action. What If We Get It Right? makes the connections between knowing and doing obvious, enticing, and fun. Come for brilliant, hopeful (but real!) conversations, stay for the Venn diagrams.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ValKat12
    United States4 months ago
  • Such a helpful perspective, with so much great information.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Jennifer Perez
    10 months ago

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Listeners praise hopeful, actionable discussions that connect policy to everyday life.
Guests are described as smart, knowledgeable, and engaging, with clear communication.
The host is noted for thoughtful, energetic interviewing that makes complex topics accessible.

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Climate hushing, EVs 🔌 and creating “The Carbon Wave,” with Leah Stokes
Q: If you were running for Congress right now, how would you be talking about climate change?
Leah suggests focusing on clear, relatable benefits of clean energy—such as lower electricity bills and healthier communities—while avoiding scare tactics, with emphasis on affordable, practical policy options and conveying that clean energy is not just about the future but about right now.
For the love of nature, culture, and the future 💖 with Dr. Heidi Roop
Q: Are there books and movies that you recommend to show climate solutions in a positive light without being disheartening?
Yes, the guest suggests looking for media that depicts everyday, attainable climate actions and hopeful futures, rather than doom-and-gloom narratives, and emphasizes the importance of including climate solutions in scripted entertainment to inspire action.
Winning the narrative battle 🎥, with dream hampton
Q: What are three things you wish everyone knew about climate communication?
Firstly, we need to prioritize narrative. Secondly, we should learn from the right about sticking to simple messages. Lastly, we must unlock funding for narrative work.
Winning the narrative battle 🎥, with dream hampton
Q: Are there lessons from your broader career of work that you think people in the climate movement should be paying more attention to as far as not just yelling facts at people?
Hampton emphasizes the importance of investing in narrative and storytelling to communicate climate issues effectively.
The Current Politics of Food and Farming 👨‍🌾 with Dave Herring
Q: What are the major climate impacts that farmers are grappling with in this region in particular?
Farmers are dealing with extreme drought conditions that disrupt production, affecting yield and forcing farmers to adapt quickly.

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A climate-focused interview series that centers on practical solutions and real-world action. Episodes feature policymakers, scientists, business leaders, storytellers, and activists discussing policy levers, technology adoption, and cultural change needed to accelerate climate progress. The host guides conversations with optimism and clarity, translating complex topics into actionable insights for a broad audience. Notable strengths include high-profile guests spanning government, industry, academia, and media, plus a consistent emphasis on tangible steps, equity, and scalable solutions across sectors like energy, housing, agriculture, and fashion.

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2. Robin Wall Kimmerer
3. Hannah Pingree
4. Katherine Wilkinson
5. Dr. Heidi Roop
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7. Ryan Gellert
8. Dave Herring

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