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WHAT IF WE GET IT RIGHT?

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
Climate Change
Environmental Justice
Clean Energy
Renewable Energy
Environmental Law
Climate Solutions
Climate Crisis
Activism
Sabin Center For Climate Change Law
Trump Administration
PFAS
Storytelling
Environmental Protection Agency
Climate Action
Federal Climate Funding
Inflation Reduction Act
Climate Justice
Policy Change
Poetry
Nature

A show about climate solutions, about what we need to do to address the climate crisis, and how to make those things happen — from changing laws, to electrifying buildings, to improving fashion and media. Each week an expert guest joins host Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson to break it down, delightfully, and help us all envision what getting right on climate looks like, so we can reel that vision into... more

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Today’s conversation is a special one. I’m joined by someone who’s been a collaborator and a dear friend in this work: Katharine K. Wilkinson.

And tomorrow, May 5th, is publication day for Katharine's new book that’s the culmination of the last 5 ye... more

In the spirit of the What If We Get It Right? paperback launch, sharing an excerpt of the audiobook. The heart of this audiobook is 20 interviews with people who have shaped my understanding of the answer to the titular question. It’s kind of like a ... more

Back in September 2024, on the day my book What If We Get It Right? was published, I did one of the most absurd and delightful things I’ve ever done. I co-hosted an over-the-top goofy Climate Variety Show with actor Jason Sudeikis at the Brooklyn Mus... more

Hello Earthlings, we are back with a new episode of the What If We Get It Right? podcast. This is the first episode of Season 4, which will be a short season — maybe 6 episodes? Not sure! We’ll see how it goes.

Today’s conversation, with Dr. Heidi R... more

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Recent Guests

Katherine Wilkinson
Author of All We Can Save and Climate Wayfinding author and educator
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Episode: Climate Wayfinding 🧭 with Dr. Katharine Wilkinson
Dr. Heidi Roop
Climate scientist and author; director of the University of Minnesota's Climate Adaptation Partnership
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Episode: For the love of nature, culture, and the future 💖 with Dr. Heidi Roop
Dream Hampton
Filmmaker and writer focused on narratives about power, justice, and climate.
Episode: Winning the narrative battle 🎥, with dream hampton
Ryan Gellert
CEO of Patagonia
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Episode: Earth is our only shareholder 🌏, with Patagonia CEO Ryan Gellert
Dave Herring
Executive director of Wolfe's Neck Center for Agriculture and the Environment
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Episode: The Current Politics of Food and Farming 👨‍🌾 with Dave Herring
Jainey Bavishi
A nationally recognized expert in climate resilience.
Formerly Assistant Secretary of Commerce and Deputy Administrator of NOAA
Episode: How to deal with the heat 🌎🥵 with Jainey Bavishi and Jeff Goodell
Jeff Goodell
Author of The Heat Will Kill You First, Life and Death on a Scorched Planet.
Writer for Rolling Stone
Episode: How to deal with the heat 🌎🥵 with Jainey Bavishi and Jeff Goodell
John Marshall
Founding executive director of Potential Energy and expert in marketing
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Episode: Climate hushing, fart jokes, and love. 😝 John Marshall on how to market climate action.
Indigo Rumbolo
Co-founder of Just Stop Oil
Episode: Presenting — Sabotage: The Splat 🥫🖼️

Host

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
Host of the show, guiding conversations through climate solutions and storytelling.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 228 ratings
  • Such a helpful perspective, with so much great information.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Jennifer Perez
    6 months ago
  • Ayana is Wonderful

    Great speech

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Billybill1984
    United States6 months ago
  • My favorite podcast

    I started following Ayana Johnson shortly after the Trump administration started deleting scientific data from Federal websites and trying to erase science. Ayana was busying herself, collecting and archiving that data as quickly as she could, while I sat at home and cried in my Beer. These are the leaders we need right now. These are the voices we need to listen to. Subscribe rate and review now!!!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    afugior
    United States7 months ago
  • This is how I stay up to date with the most critical crisis facing humanity.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    SilverPlatipus
    7 months ago
  • Love the podcast

    And love Jigar. But he asked “right?” 900 times in that interview. Annoying.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Billybill1984
    United States7 months ago

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Guests are high-caliber, bringing depth across science, policy, and culture.
Shows balance urgency with practical steps, helping audiences translate interest into action.
Audience feedback highlights strong host interview Skills and diverse guest mix.
Listeners praise accessible, hopeful climate storytelling with rigorous guests.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

For the love of nature, culture, and the future 💖 with Dr. Heidi Roop
Q: Are there books and movies that you recommend to show climate solutions in a positive light without being disheartening?
Yes, the guest suggests looking for media that depicts everyday, attainable climate actions and hopeful futures, rather than doom-and-gloom narratives, and emphasizes the importance of including climate solutions in scripted entertainment to inspire action.
Winning the narrative battle 🎥, with dream hampton
Q: What are three things you wish everyone knew about climate communication?
Firstly, we need to prioritize narrative. Secondly, we should learn from the right about sticking to simple messages. Lastly, we must unlock funding for narrative work.
Winning the narrative battle 🎥, with dream hampton
Q: Are there lessons from your broader career of work that you think people in the climate movement should be paying more attention to as far as not just yelling facts at people?
Hampton emphasizes the importance of investing in narrative and storytelling to communicate climate issues effectively.
The Current Politics of Food and Farming 👨‍🌾 with Dave Herring
Q: What are the major climate impacts that farmers are grappling with in this region in particular?
Farmers are dealing with extreme drought conditions that disrupt production, affecting yield and forcing farmers to adapt quickly.
How to deal with the heat 🌎🥵 with Jainey Bavishi and Jeff Goodell
Q: What do we owe to the cooked?
We owe recognition of responsibility and support to those most affected by extreme heat.

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This show centers climate solutions through conversations with leading scientists, policymakers, journalists, activists, and business leaders. Episodes explore actionable paths—from policy shifts and urban resilience to sustainable fashion and responsible media—driven by a host who blends rigor with optimism. Notable across episodes is a pattern of turning complex climate topics into practical, relatable steps, and featuring prominent voices like Jane Goodall, Katherine Wilkinson, Jigar Shah, and Dream Hampton to illuminate narrative, policy, and market levers. The format often blends deep-dive analysis with accessible storytelling, making it useful for listeners who want to understand both the stakes and the concrete actions shaping a low-... more

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4. Ryan Gellert
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7. Jeff Goodell
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