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Donald Trump
Homelessness
Abortion
Medicaid
Safer Kentucky Act
Affordable Housing
Substance Use Disorder
Women's Health Center Of Maryland
Reproductive Rights
Louisville, Kentucky
Maryland
Abortion Rights
Daniel Johnston
American Revolution
Covid-19
Appalachia
Housing Crisis
Criminal Justice
Criminal Record

We tell stories from the fault lines that separate Americans. Peabody Award-winning public radio producer Trey Kay listens to people on both sides of the divide.

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While Americans disagree about many things when it comes to politics, elections and domestic and global affairs, most agree that a robust economy is essential for a strong nation. In recent months, nearly all U.S. states have shown economic growth, e... more

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There are so many young people in the U.S. who are not in school, working or training for work, that there’s a name for it. They are ‘disconnected youth,’ and while West Virginia’s rate has dropped in recent years, it’s still one of the highest in th... more

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Us & Them: What We Hide — Examining The Collateral Damage Of Addiction

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Housing is becoming less affordable for many people. As a result, more cities and towns grapple with growing homeless populations. Hundreds of cities across the nation now have laws that prohibit camping on public property to discourage encampments a... more

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Sarah Tucker
Chancellor of Higher Education for the state of West Virginia
West Virginia Higher Education
Episode: Us & Them Encore: Disconnected Youth
Colleen Moran
Licensed psychologist specializing in youth,
Harmony Mental Health
Episode: Us & Them Encore: Disconnected Youth
Dan Kay
Filmmaker of What We Hide
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Episode: Us & Them: What We Hide — Examining The Collateral Damage Of Addiction
Dr. James Berry
Addiction psychiatrist at Rockefeller Neuroscience Institute
West Virginia University
Episode: Us & Them: What We Hide — Examining The Collateral Damage Of Addiction
Dolly Sullivan
Clinical social worker specializing in trauma and mental health
West Virginia University / Morgantown
Episode: Us & Them: What We Hide — Examining The Collateral Damage Of Addiction
McKenna Grace
Actress playing Spider
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Episode: Us & Them: What We Hide — Examining The Collateral Damage Of Addiction
JoJo Regina
Actress playing Jessie
Film What We Hide
Episode: Us & Them: What We Hide — Examining The Collateral Damage Of Addiction
Gino Sciarelli
Delegate, 78th House District, Republican
West Virginia Legislature
Episode: Us & Them: Who Can Call Morgantown Home?
Laura Jones
Executive Director, Mylan Pushkar HealthRight
HealthRight (free health clinic)
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Trey Kay
Host of Us & Them, a narrative-driven public affairs program.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 441 ratings
  • One of my favorite pods

    Us and Them has continue to be one of my favorite podcasts. It’s very informative, the topics covered are very interesting, and I love that the host gives you a true wide range of perspectives without it being heavily one sided or judgmental. I always look forward to new episodes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kasslea
    United States2 years ago
  • Five Star

    This podcast continues to be one of the most informative and important on my playlist. I always feel like sharing episodes to ppl I know with the hopes of fostering good discussion and tending to our nations divi visions. So good and worth your time.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cmcveigh23
    United States3 years ago
  • So glad I found this

    I am so glad to have stumbled across this podcast. It has a unique way of looking at both sides and them connecting them. We really aren’t all that different are we?

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Jcmaidens
    United States4 years ago
  • Great how multiple viewpoints are considered in each episode. The podcast calmly explores different sides and in this enables us to broaden our thinking. Thank you for your work!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Candida Oxford
    5 years ago
  • Glad to have found Us & Them

    Not only is Us & Them very engaging and an interesting podcast to listen to, but I am surprised by the multiple ways of looking at the topics. It’s not just black & white, but in-between too. Even though it can be hard to listen to some of the guests, they exist and it’s healthy for us all to try to keep our minds open. Thanks Trey Kay for your great work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SequoiasOutBack
    United States5 years ago

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Episodes are informative and often feel like a window into real-world complexities.
Some listeners call out moments when questions aren't pressed hard enough but still appreciate the host's neutrality and empathy.
Listeners praise balanced, multi-perspective storytelling that avoids one-sided arguments.

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Us & Them: What We Hide — Examining The Collateral Damage Of Addiction
Q: Why start the story with the mother's death and the children's immediate subsequent struggles?
The framing provides an immediate emotional entry into the aftermath of addiction, showing what remains for the children and how their survival depends on acts of care, trust, and resilience.
Us & Them: Who Can Call Morgantown Home?
Q: What is the biggest barrier to moving people from homelessness into housing according to panelists?
Panelists repeatedly point to the chronic shortage of affordable, low-barrier housing and lengthy waiting lists, compounded by stringent income and documentation requirements that door many people out of access to housing subsidies.
Us & Them: The Good, The Bad, And The American Revolution
Q: What role do universities play in shaping the public understanding of the founding era?
Universities should expand worldviews, foster safe, respectful debate, and provide tools for critical thinking rather than indoctrination.
Us & Them Encore: Substance Use Disorder — Can You Recover Without A Place To Call Home?
Q: What has been the practical impact of the Safer Kentucky Act on unhoused people in Louisville?
While some see the act as a necessary push toward treatment, others describe it as criminalizing homelessness and creating new barriers to stable housing, with real consequences on access to services and safety.
Us & Them: The Mythology Of Crime Stats
Q: So, how are crime statistics wielded to bolster these two approaches?
Ineptly, unprofessionally and malevolently, if I pronounce that correctly.

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What is Us & Them about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This program examines disruptions and divides across American life through deeply reported storytelling and on-the-ground perspectives. Recent episodes center on addiction's collateral damage to families, homelessness and housing policy in Appalachia, foster care system strains, and the intersections of race, policy, and health care. Guests range from clinicians and social workers to faith leaders, policymakers, and artists, offering a mosaic of lived experiences and data-driven context. The show tends to center human narratives that illuminate systemic issues, while pushing for empathy, accountability, and practical solutions that cross ideological lines. Its strength lies in balancing personal storytelling with policy analysis, making com... more

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