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We tell stories from the fault lines that separate Americans. Peabody Award-winning public radio producer Trey Kay listens to people on both sides of the divide.

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We’re an aging nation. Today 16% of Americans are over 65. In the next few decades that will double as the youngest Baby Boomers move into old age. But in West Virginia, that future is now. It’s the third oldest state in the nation and more than 20% ... more

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America’s crime rates have prompted President Donald Trump to deploy federal agents and National Guard troops in a handful of major cities. On this episode of Us & Them, host Trey Kay looks at what data and statistics can really tell us about the lev... more

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America’s housing shortage continues to put affordable homes out of reach for people across the country — from small towns to big cities. While West Virginia has the nation’s highest level of homeownership overall, many residents still struggle to fi... more

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This episode first aired in 2023, focusing on the strategies to motivate young voters and we’re sharing it again in the wake of the Sept. 10, 2025, assassination of Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA.  Kirk, a renowned conservative youth orga... more

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Recent Guests

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Kyle Spencer
Journalist and author of 'Raising Them Right'
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Abby Kiesa
Researcher at Tufts University and Director of the Center for Information & Research on Civic Learning and Engagement
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David Sklansky
Law professor at Stanford University
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Eric Hicks
President of Right at Home, which provides in-home care services
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Dr. Orlando Craighead
Executive Director of the Kanawha Coalition for Community Health Improvement
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Episode: Us & Them: Caregiving In West Virginia
Kimberly Taylor Newsom
Program Director for the West Virginia Aging and Disability Resource Center
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Tim Franklin
Senior Associate Dean at the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University
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Ron Allen
Owner and publisher of The Hurricane Breeze
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Host

Trey Kay
Peabody Award-winning public radio producer, known for his engaging storytelling and nuanced exploration of social issues.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 436 ratings
  • One of my favorite pods

    Us and Them has continue to be one of my favorite podcasts. It’s very informative, the topics covered are very interesting, and I love that the host gives you a true wide range of perspectives without it being heavily one sided or judgmental. I always look forward to new episodes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kasslea
    United Statesa year ago
  • Five Star

    This podcast continues to be one of the most informative and important on my playlist. I always feel like sharing episodes to ppl I know with the hopes of fostering good discussion and tending to our nations divi visions. So good and worth your time.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cmcveigh23
    United States2 years ago
  • So glad I found this

    I am so glad to have stumbled across this podcast. It has a unique way of looking at both sides and them connecting them. We really aren’t all that different are we?

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Jcmaidens
    United States3 years ago
  • Great how multiple viewpoints are considered in each episode. The podcast calmly explores different sides and in this enables us to broaden our thinking. Thank you for your work!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Candida Oxford
    4 years ago
  • Glad to have found Us & Them

    Not only is Us & Them very engaging and an interesting podcast to listen to, but I am surprised by the multiple ways of looking at the topics. It’s not just black & white, but in-between too. Even though it can be hard to listen to some of the guests, they exist and it’s healthy for us all to try to keep our minds open. Thanks Trey Kay for your great work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SequoiasOutBack
    United States4 years ago

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Overall, the podcast is seen as a valuable space for empathy and understanding in a divided society.
Listeners appreciate the podcast for its thought-provoking content and the host's ability to maintain an open dialogue with diverse guests.
Some listeners express frustration with the host's neutrality, feeling that certain issues deserve stronger advocacy.
Many reviews highlight the engaging storytelling and emotional depth of the topics discussed.
The show is praised for its balanced perspective, allowing voices from both sides of contentious issues to be heard.

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Us & Them: The Mythology Of Crime Stats
Q: So, how are crime statistics wielded to bolster these two approaches?
Ineptly, unprofessionally and malevolently, if I pronounce that correctly.
Us & Them: The Mythology Of Crime Stats
Q: But you were mentioning kind of an experience that you had with a wing of the Biden administration.
The Trump administration is directing federal resources toward addressing crime in places like Washington, DC, California, Tennessee, and perhaps Chicago and Baltimore. And yet, others have noted that the crime rates, specifically violent crime, is down.
Us & Them: Rebuilding Justice In A Divided America
Q: What distinguishes the Trump era of authoritarian populism from earlier versions of conservative law and order politics?
The Trump administration lacks concern for local autonomy, insisting that communities handle criminal justice as long as it aligns with their desires.
Us & Them: Rebuilding Justice In A Divided America
Q: How does the polarized America impact our criminal justice system?
The advanced criminal justice policies likely to fail and cause needless suffering because they lack broad support across the political spectrum.
Us & Them: Caregiving In West Virginia
Q: How does our medical system prepare families for caregiving situations?
The system really doesn't prepare families; many are not aware of the resources until it's too late, which leads to significant struggles.

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This podcast explores the intricate fault lines that divide American society, featuring a diverse array of perspectives on pressing social issues. Each episode highlights personal stories and expert insights on topics ranging from criminal justice and caregiving challenges to the nuances of local journalism and the impacts of political legislation. The unique approach combines storytelling with real voices from various communities, promoting understanding and dialogue in a polarized landscape. Noteworthy themes include discussions on the opioid crisis, housing inequality, and gender rights, making it a compelling listen for those seeking to engage thoughtfully with America's multifaceted societal dynamics.

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2. Kyle Spencer
3. Abby Kiesa
4. David Sklansky
5. Eric Hicks
6. Dr. Orlando Craighead
7. Kimberly Taylor Newsom
8. Tim Franklin

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