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Trapital

Dan Runcie
Music Industry
Tiktok
Youtube
Taylor Swift
Spotify
Universal Music Group
Hip-Hop
Kendrick Lamar
Beyoncé
Coachella
Drake
Apple Music
Streaming
Trapital Summit
Streaming Services
Ticketmaster
Kanye West
AI In Music
50 Cent
Live Nation

Trapital is where technology meets culture. Hear breakdowns on the most important trends in tech, media, and entertainment. Trapital founder Dan Runcie and various guests break down the moves that shape the rest of society. Learn more

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AI keeps getting called music's biggest threat. Or its biggest opportunity. Both framings miss the point.

The real question is harder: if AI can handle the cognitive work, what's left that actually matters?

We're joined by Jessica Powell, CEO and c... more

Interstellar wasn't a phenomenon when it dropped in 2014. Now it's widely seen as a masterpiece. It’s more popular now than it was on release.

How does that happen? Can we see it coming?

In this solo episode, we break down the mechanics of a cultur... more

Was there ever truly a "monoculture”? Or have we been telling ourselves a comforting story about past shared experience? We sit down with Tatiana Cirisano, VP of Music Strategy, MIDiA Research to unpack how we got from finale watch parties to infinit... more

K-Pop is in a unique situation. The genre “feels” like it’s everywhere. BTS, Blackpink, Stray Kids, and KPop **Demon Hunters have topped Billboard and Netflix charts. But recent data shows that roughly 2% of global streams are from K-Pop, and the gen... more

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Recent Guests

Jessica Powell
CEO and co-founder of AudioShake
AudioShake
Episode: When AI Writes Code and Makes Music, What's Left for Humans?
Akin Aliu
Music touring agent at CAA
CAA
Episode: Arena Tours: The Truth Behind “Blue Dot Fever”
Josh Gruss
Founder of Round Hill Music
Round Hill Music
Episode: Music Catalogs: Is There Ever A Good Time to Sell?
Michael Nash
Executive Vice President and Chief Digital Officer, Universal Music Group
Universal Music Group
Episode: Artists and AI: Offense, Defense, and the Future of Music
Clive Davis
Music executive, founder of Arista Records
Arista Records (and earlier Columbia Records)
Episode: Clive Davis Part 1: Whitney Houston, Resilience, and The World's Greatest Party
Dave Brooks
Music correspondent at Puck, host of the Decibel and Docket podcast
Puck
Episode: Coachella’s Dilemma: Stadium Money vs. Festival Money
Ben Sisario
Reporter covering music and the music industry for over 20 years at The New York Times
New York Times
Episode: Talent Agencies: Who Leads the Next Era?
Larry Miller
NYU professor, Musonomics host
New York University; Musonomics
Episode: Live Nation and DOJ Settled. Now What?
Denis Lattagiri
CEO and founder of Believe
Believe
Episode: Private Investors Love Music. Why Doesn’t Wall Street?

Host

Dan Runcie
Host of Trapital

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 370 ratings
  • Love the show

    Great breakdowns on the most important trends in tech and entertainment. Trapital is always one step ahead!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BigFan25!
    United Statesa year ago
  • SO VALUABLE

    Insightful, unique conversations. Valuable perspectives around the crossroads of music and business, in which only Trapital can provide. Keep up the great work, Dan!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    B TO THE THIRD
    United States2 years ago
  • Love it

    Dan is an expert and a great communicator. Guest are always on point and engaging!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    p_monti4
    United States2 years ago
  • Adding Context & Depth To Entertainment Business

    Trapital dives deep into the intricacies of the entertainment business, delivering insightful analysis and commentary that’s both engaging and informative. Each episode provides music business and broader entertainment industry knowledge. Dan and the quality guests bring depth to the discussion that’s rare to find elsewhere. Trapital is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand the behind-the-scenes strategic moves.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sincere_fella
    United States2 years ago
  • Great podcast! Keep it up!

    I stumbled upon this podcast by learning about Dan / Trapital via LinkedIn. I listen to A LOT of podcasts and I decided to give it a listen. First, Dan has a calm and authentic demeanor, which are great qualities. When he’s talking to his guests it’s very conversational and easy flowing. I’m a former music industry vet so the topics are right up my alley. I’m writing this review after listening to the Splice episode. Things like YouTube, Spotify, and Splice are the now and the future of the mus... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Phil Stolaronek
    United States3 years ago

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High-caliber conversations with data-driven analysis and cultural context.
Guests consistently bring depth and practical takeaways.
Engaging host and guests who deliver market-relevant insights.
Listeners praise the podcast for deep dives into music business and tech trends.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#97
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Apple Podcasts
#240
Philippines/Technology

Talking Points

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When AI Writes Code and Makes Music, What's Left for Humans?
Q: What is the central tension between AI tools and human artistry in music?
AI can handle many craft tasks, but human sensation—embodiment, live performance, and emotional storytelling—remains a differentiator that audiences value and connect with.
Arena Tours: The Truth Behind “Blue Dot Fever”
Q: What factors determine whether an artist should move from an arena to a larger venue or stick with smaller rooms?
It depends on the mix of fan urgency, ticket demand, available time between releases, and how much value you can extract from the fan at each price point, with data like queues, sell-out speed, and secondary market activity guiding the decisions.
Clive Davis Part 2: Reviving Careers, Industry Power, and Leaving a Legacy
Q: What is your view on selling catalogs for tax or estate reasons, and would you ever consider selling?
I could conceive of selling if the value created heavy taxes that would be necessary to defray cash needs, but generally I believe in holding catalog rights so long as it serves the artist and their family, and only considering sale when the math and tax landscape align with long-term goals.
Clive Davis Part 2: Reviving Careers, Industry Power, and Leaving a Legacy
Q: In these music rights deals, in the publishing, in the catalog, it's less often, oh, let's make a new record for this artist. What lessons do you see in current catalog strategies?
Catalog strategies hinge on finding ways to keep timeless songs living on through performances, re-recordings, and smart licensing, while balancing tax implications and estate planning to ensure artists' legacies endure beyond a single hit.
Talent Agencies: Who Leads the Next Era?
Q: Let's start down with the big one, Wasserman. What's your current read on how you think this situation will play out for Wasserman moving forward?
The shift includes distancing from the founder's name, considering a sale of the entire conglomerate or at least large portions, and weighing whether buyers will be strategic or financial, with a leaning toward a financial buyer given regulatory sensitivities.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Trapital

What is Trapital about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show consistently analyzes the business side of tech, media, and entertainment through data-driven conversations with industry leaders and researchers. Across episodes, topics like AI's impact on music, rights and catalogs, live event economics, and platform strategies come up repeatedly, often anchored by data points, case studies, and big-name guests from labels, agencies, and tech platforms. The format balances expert analysis with storytelling and practical takeaways for creators, executives, and investors. Notable strengths include high-caliber guests, a clear focus on the intersection of culture and commerce, and sponsor integrations that provide real-world context about distribution, tools, and platforms. If you're evaluating thi... more

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1. Jessica Powell
2. Akin Aliu
3. Josh Gruss
4. Michael Nash
5. Clive Davis
6. Dave Brooks
7. Ben Sisario
8. Larry Miller

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