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Trapital

Dan Runcie
Music Industry
Youtube
Tiktok
Taylor Swift
Spotify
Universal Music Group
Hip-Hop
Kendrick Lamar
Beyoncé
Trapital Summit
Coachella
Drake
AI In Music
Apple Music
Streaming
Streaming Services
Ticketmaster
Kanye West
50 Cent
Live Nation

Trapital is where technology meets culture. Hear breakdowns on the most important trends in tech, media, and entertainment. Trapital founder Dan Runcie and various guests break down the moves that shape the rest of society. Learn more

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I sat down with Primary Wave CEO Larry at the Trapital Summit.

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The third annual Trapital Summit is officially in the books.

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In our final bold prediction before Trapital Summit, Guillaume de Chalendar, Executive Vice President and Head of Media and Entertainment Banking at Banc of California, joins us to discuss the growing wave of capital entering the music industry.

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Recent Guests

Larry Mestel
Founder and CEO of Primary Wave
Primary Wave
Episode: Larry Mestel on What Makes a Song Worth Millions
Guillaume de Chalendar
Executive Vice President of Media and Entertainment, Banc of California
Banc of California
Episode: Buyer Beware: The Rise of Debt in Music Rights Deals
Jenna Gaudio
Co-President of Vydia
Vydia (Gamma)
Episode: Who Will Win in the AI Music Courtroom?
Shari Reich
Global Head of Audio and Music for Nvidia
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Episode: Who Will Win in the AI Music Courtroom?
Rob Law
Co-founder and partner at Shot Tower Capital
Shot Tower Capital
Episode: What Dollywood Got Right About Artist-Led Businesses
Antwyne DeLinde
Managing director of business development at Shot Tower Capital
Shot Tower Capital
Episode: What Dollywood Got Right About Artist-Led Businesses
Marco Paglia
Co-founder and co-president of Musixmatch
Musixmatch
Episode: What Dollywood Got Right About Artist-Led Businesses
Jesper Staffas
VP of Music and Artist Operations
Epidemic Sound
Episode: Should Netflix Start Streaming Music?
Mike Morris
Managing Partner at Flexpoint Ford
Flexpoint Ford
Episode: Why Investors Are Looking Beyond Iconic Music Catalogs

Host

Dan Runcie
Host of Trapital

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 370 ratings
  • Love the show

    Great breakdowns on the most important trends in tech and entertainment. Trapital is always one step ahead!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BigFan25!
    United States2 years ago
  • SO VALUABLE

    Insightful, unique conversations. Valuable perspectives around the crossroads of music and business, in which only Trapital can provide. Keep up the great work, Dan!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    B TO THE THIRD
    United States2 years ago
  • Love it

    Dan is an expert and a great communicator. Guest are always on point and engaging!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    p_monti4
    United States3 years ago
  • Adding Context & Depth To Entertainment Business

    Trapital dives deep into the intricacies of the entertainment business, delivering insightful analysis and commentary that’s both engaging and informative. Each episode provides music business and broader entertainment industry knowledge. Dan and the quality guests bring depth to the discussion that’s rare to find elsewhere. Trapital is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand the behind-the-scenes strategic moves.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sincere_fella
    United States3 years ago
  • Great podcast! Keep it up!

    I stumbled upon this podcast by learning about Dan / Trapital via LinkedIn. I listen to A LOT of podcasts and I decided to give it a listen. First, Dan has a calm and authentic demeanor, which are great qualities. When he’s talking to his guests it’s very conversational and easy flowing. I’m a former music industry vet so the topics are right up my alley. I’m writing this review after listening to the Splice episode. Things like YouTube, Spotify, and Splice are the now and the future of the mus... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Phil Stolaronek
    United States3 years ago

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Talking Points

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Should Netflix Start Streaming Music?
Q: Will Netflix do it?
The guest suggests Netflix could start with testing a few music-focused initiatives—like licensing select artists, live streams, or partnerships—before pursuing a full music library, using engagement and advertiser interest as early signals to gauge viability.
Bold Predictions: The Future for Songwriters and Creators
Q: Where do you see the balance between AI-enabled creation and traditional artistry evolving?
The guest argued that AI will coexist with traditional artistry; advancement will free creators to pursue other ventures (fashion, film, branding) while still valuing strong IP ownership and meaningful equity in songs, with the expectation that attribution and ownership structures will adapt but protect writers.
Bold Predictions: The Future for Songwriters and Creators
Q: Lucas, what do you got for Bold Predictions in the near future?
He predicted that the core risk for songwriters is not AI itself but the trend of Frankenstein-like pop records with many writers and producers, which could erode ownership and earnings unless the A&R and publishing ecosystems push back.
When AI Writes Code and Makes Music, What's Left for Humans?
Q: What is the central tension between AI tools and human artistry in music?
AI can handle many craft tasks, but human sensation—embodiment, live performance, and emotional storytelling—remains a differentiator that audiences value and connect with.
Arena Tours: The Truth Behind “Blue Dot Fever”
Q: What factors determine whether an artist should move from an arena to a larger venue or stick with smaller rooms?
It depends on the mix of fan urgency, ticket demand, available time between releases, and how much value you can extract from the fan at each price point, with data like queues, sell-out speed, and secondary market activity guiding the decisions.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Trapital

What is Trapital about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A data-driven look at the convergence of technology, culture, and business in media and music. The show often centers on the economics of music catalogs, AI-enabled creation, platform dynamics, and how creators, investors, and labels navigate a rapidly changing landscape. Guests range from investors and executives to industry insiders who illuminate why ownership, rights, and monetization matter in today's digital era. A standout aspect is the consistent emphasis on practical frameworks (underwriting catalogs, AI governance, touring economics) and long-term thinking about value, ownership, and platform strategy. It's particularly useful for listeners who want clear takeaways on where the industry is headed and who is shaping it, whether as ... more

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1. Larry Mestel
2. Guillaume de Chalendar
3. Jenna Gaudio
4. Shari Reich
5. Rob Law
6. Antwyne DeLinde
7. Marco Paglia
8. Jesper Staffas

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