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Transformative Principal

Jethro Jones
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Jethro Jones interviews instructional leaders from around the nation to learn and teach what it takes to become a transformative principal. Episodes address topics like Response to Intervention (RTI), Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS), Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), the latest advances in educational research, standards-based grading, and interviews with industry leaders ... more

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Mike Caldwell sits down with Scott Bess, President of the Indiana Charter Innovation Center and a member of the Indiana State Board of Education, for a wide-ranging conversation about what's broken in K-12 education — and what's actually being done t... more

In this episode of Transformative Principle, Jethro Jones sits down with Jonathan Wennstrom, principal of Rosedale Elementary in Livonia, Michigan, to discuss the power of school-wide weekly meetings. Jonathan shares how he launched "Celebrate Monday... more

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Mike Caldwell sits down with Bill Knous, Senior Director of Quality and Growth at the Colorado League of Charter Schools and co-founder of Gran Via, a micro school in the Denver area. Bill shares his winding path into education — from a history degre... more

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In this episode, host Jethro interviews Robert Dillon, author and director of Bright Bytes, about the transformative power of learning spaces. Robert argues that reimagining physical classroom environments is one of the few true "big levers" of disru... more

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Jonathon Wennstrom
Principal of Rosedale Elementary, Lavonia, Michigan
Rosedale Elementary, Lavonia, Michigan
Episode: Making Mondays the Best Day of the Week with Jonathon Wennstrom
Bill Knous
Senior Director of Quality and Growth at the Colorado League of Charter Schools; co-founder of Gran Via Microschool
Colorado League of Charter Schools; Gran Via Microschool
Episode: The Nonlinear Path with Bill Knous
Robert Dillon
Director of Bright Bytes; author discussing Learning Spaces; speaker at Transformative Leadership Summit
BrightBytes
Episode: Addition Through Subtraction with Robert Dillon
Kyle Palmer
Principal of Lewis and Clark Elementary
Lewis and Clark Elementary
Episode: Developing Teacher Leaders with Kyle Palmer
Daniel Bauer
Assistant Principal at Brooks High School; host of Better Leaders Better Schools podcast
Brooks College Prep, Chicago; Better Leaders Better Schools
Episode: Building Relationships That Outlast Leadership Transitions with Danny Bauer
Kimberly Miles
Principal of East Gresham Elementary School; leadership summit participant
East Gresham Elementary School
Episode: Read to Lead with Kimberly Miles
Dr. Gene Kearns
Renaissance educator consultant providing reflections on AI in education
Renaissance
Episode: Read to Lead with Kimberly Miles
Alisha De Lorenzo
Educator and consultant focused on Positive Disruption and aliveness in schools
Independent/Consultant
Episode: Unleash Aliveness with Alisha De Lorenzo
Derek Cantrell
Transformative Principal, former high school principal
Allegheny/Covington merger leader
Episode: Better Together with Derek Cantrell

Hosts

Jethro Jones
Host of Transformative Principal; BE Podcast Network founder; education leadership advocate
Mike Caldwell
Co-host and educator-focused organizer; runs LinkedLeaders; engages in leadership development and podcasting

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 119 ratings
  • Incredible!

    A must listen for all school leaders. Jethro has the experience necessary to ask really good questions and give incredible advice.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    C:::J
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great Podcast

    This is one of the first principal podcast I listened to as an educational leader. Jethro always has great advice and brings on amazing leaders in education. I highly recommend this podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Barb22222
    United States2 years ago
  • So helpful

    I am actually a teacher and have hopes to be an AP at some point when it works out in my personal life. I believe strongly in professional development and have really enjoyed listening. I especially find the coaching sessions between Jethro and Eric useful as I gain so much insight into the realities of being a new principal and then hearing and learning experienced insights. The interviews are also interesting. I really can tell that you value what you do and I am furiously taking notes as I li... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SarahWieczorek
    United States3 years ago
  • This podcast helps me be a principal

    Been listening since the beginning. This podcast continues to deliver after 10 years, every week. Awesome work, Jethro. Congrats on continuing to deliver value every week for so long! Here’s to seven more years!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tehjunction
    United States3 years ago
  • Karen Dudek-Brannan

    I learn so much from this show about what's it's like to be in a position of leadership; as well as how to level up in my career. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Karen-DB
    United States3 years ago

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Many reviewers highlight the coaching-style conversations and concrete takeaways for principals and teachers.
The show consistently delivers high-quality interviews with school leaders and authors.
Listeners find practical, actionable leadership guidance that translates to real school improvement.

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The Nonlinear Path with Bill Knous
Q: What is a micro school, and how is Gran Via funded and sustained?
He explains micro schools as smaller in scale, community-demand-driven, with funding coming from vouchers/ESAs, homeschool enrichment, and tuition-free public options; Gran Via evolved from small camps to a full charter, emphasizing sustainable governance and reserves.
The Nonlinear Path with Bill Knous
Q: How did you get into micro schools and leadership roles, and what experiences shaped Gran Via?
Bill describes a long journey—from teaching in Denver and Philly to teaching abroad, starting a micro school in Colorado, and building Gran Via through funding pilots, MTSS coordination, and a co-founded leadership model rooted in relationships and community needs.
The Nonlinear Path with Bill Knous
Q: Share a school visit or classroom moment that you'll never forget.
The guest recalls Mountain Middle School in Durango for its authentic performance tasks and high student engagement, illustrating how strong leadership and aligned environments can transform middle school culture.
Making Mondays the Best Day of the Week with Jonathon Wennstrom
Q: How did you roll this out to students and parents?
We springed it on the students to create immediacy, while using a parent blog to share themes, videos, and guidance, inviting parents to ask their children what they talked about to reinforce the messaging at home.
Making Mondays the Best Day of the Week with Jonathon Wennstrom
Q: What do you get out of doing these assemblies?
The assemblies provide a structured, consistent kickoff each Monday that builds school-wide culture, supports PBIS goals, and creates a shared language across classrooms, which helps reduce behavior issues and start the week with positive momentum.

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Listeners are drawn to leadership-focused conversations about turning schools into change agents. Episodes frequently center on practical implementations of transformative leadership, including building strong instructional cultures, leadership succession, space design, and the integration of AI and edtech to boost coherence across curricula. The show often blends actionable frameworks with case studies from districts and schools, highlighting real-world challenges, measurable outcomes, and the human side of leading through change. A notable strength is its ability to connect classroom-level practices with systemic reforms, making it useful for principals, district leaders, and educators seeking tangible strategies. The format tends to feat... more

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1. Jonathon Wennstrom
2. Bill Knous
3. Robert Dillon
4. Kyle Palmer
5. Daniel Bauer
6. Kimberly Miles
7. Dr. Gene Kearns
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