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Transformative Principal

Jethro Jones
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Jethro Jones interviews instructional leaders from around the nation to learn and teach what it takes to become a transformative principal. Episodes address topics like Response to Intervention (RTI), Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS), Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), the latest advances in educational research, standards-based grading, and interviews with industry leaders ... more

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At ISTE 2026, Jethro Jones sits down with Mike Anderson to discuss his new book, Hugging Porcupines: Practical Strategies for Supporting Kids Who Struggle with Behavior in School. They explore why some students disengage, resist connection, and act o... more

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Pete Hall joins Jethro Jones live at ISTE 2026 to discuss his new book, Reaching and Teaching Kids Who Don't Fit in the Box. They dig into the five core reasons students disengage from school (not fitting in, academic gaps, boredom, lack of support, ... more

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In this episode, Mike Caldwell interviews Mike Huguelet, Executive Director of the Iowa Coalition of Public Charter Schools, about building Iowa's charter school movement from the ground up. Huguelet shares his path from teaching in Chicago (co-found... more

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In this episode, host Mike Caldwell sits down with Jo Lane, an educator support and instructional coach with 16 years of experience, who is currently a principal coach based in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Jo shares insights from her new book, Burn the Script: H... more

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Recent Guests

Pete Hall
Author of Reaching and Teaching Kids Who Don't Fit in the Box
Solution Tree / Author
Episode: ISTE 2026: Reaching Kids Who Don't Fit in the Box with Pete Hall
Mike Huguelet
Executive with Iowa Coalition of Charter Schools
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Episode: Building Iowa's Charter School Movement from Scratch with Mike Huguelet
Jo Lane
Coach and author of Burn the Script
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Episode: Burn the Script with Jo Lein
Jason Leshowitz
Author of The Rejection Proof Educator; career coach for educators and leaders
Rejection Proof Career
Episode: Rejection Proof Career with Jason Leshowitz
Amy Fast
Assistant Principal, McMinnville, Oregon; led student survey project and Unity Week
McMinnville School District
Episode: Listening to Students to Transform School Culture with Amy Fast
Rachel Thrash
Senior Director of Education and Innovation at Big Bad Boo Studios; author of Let the Learners Lead
Big Bad Boo Studios
Episode: Let the Learners Lead with Rachael Thrash
Scott Bess
President, Indiana Charter Innovation Center; former founder, Indiana Charter School Association; Indiana State Board of Education member
Indiana Charter Innovation Center
Episode: Small Schools, Big Vision with Scott Bess
Jonathon Wennstrom
Principal of Rosedale Elementary, Lavonia, Michigan
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Episode: Making Mondays the Best Day of the Week with Jonathon Wennstrom
Bill Knous
Senior Director of Quality and Growth at the Colorado League of Charter Schools; co-founder of Gran Via Microschool
Colorado League of Charter Schools; Gran Via Microschool
Episode: The Nonlinear Path with Bill Knous

Hosts

Jethro Jones
Host of Transformative Principal; BE Podcast Network founder; education leadership advocate
Mike Caldwell
Co-host and educator-focused organizer; runs LinkedLeaders; engages in leadership development and podcasting

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 119 ratings
  • Incredible!

    A must listen for all school leaders. Jethro has the experience necessary to ask really good questions and give incredible advice.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    C:::J
    United States2 years ago
  • Great Podcast

    This is one of the first principal podcast I listened to as an educational leader. Jethro always has great advice and brings on amazing leaders in education. I highly recommend this podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Barb22222
    United States2 years ago
  • So helpful

    I am actually a teacher and have hopes to be an AP at some point when it works out in my personal life. I believe strongly in professional development and have really enjoyed listening. I especially find the coaching sessions between Jethro and Eric useful as I gain so much insight into the realities of being a new principal and then hearing and learning experienced insights. The interviews are also interesting. I really can tell that you value what you do and I am furiously taking notes as I li... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SarahWieczorek
    United States3 years ago
  • This podcast helps me be a principal

    Been listening since the beginning. This podcast continues to deliver after 10 years, every week. Awesome work, Jethro. Congrats on continuing to deliver value every week for so long! Here’s to seven more years!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tehjunction
    United States3 years ago
  • Karen Dudek-Brannan

    I learn so much from this show about what's it's like to be in a position of leadership; as well as how to level up in my career. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Karen-DB
    United States3 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Many reviewers highlight the coaching-style conversations and concrete takeaways for principals and teachers.
The show consistently delivers high-quality interviews with school leaders and authors.
Listeners find practical, actionable leadership guidance that translates to real school improvement.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

ISTE 2026: Reaching Kids Who Don't Fit in the Box with Pete Hall
Q: Tell us where people can get the book and any promo for early buyers.
The book is available for pre-sale at the Solution Tree site, with a 20% discount if purchased before August 7th using the code REACH20, making it easier for educators to access practical strategies.
ISTE 2026: Reaching Kids Who Don't Fit in the Box with Pete Hall
Q: Pete, you got a new book out. Tell us about what it is and what your message is.
The book Reaching and Teaching Kids Who Don't Fit in the Box offers practical, simple strategies to design school environments that engage students who don't fit traditional expectations, focusing on goals connected to what students care about and ways to connect content to their interests.
Building Iowa's Charter School Movement from Scratch with Mike Huguelet
Q: What have you found to be the biggest advantages and disadvantages of charter schools compared to traditional public schools in Iowa?
Advantages include lower red tape and a more urgent, performance-driven mindset, plus flexibility in staffing and school design. Disadvantages center on ongoing funding gaps, facilities financing, and public perception fueled by confusion about what charter schools are and are not.
Building Iowa's Charter School Movement from Scratch with Mike Huguelet
Q: Can you provide a kind of an overview of what Iowa is doing in the charter space in terms of new or existing laws since it's all fairly fresh?
Iowa is among the newer states to enable public charters, with recent legislation increasing per-pupil funding parity in some areas and creating a revolving loan fund for facilities, while recognizing the need to balance early-stage growth with sustainable funding and utility for districts.
Let the Learners Lead with Rachael Thrash
Q: What is one misconception adults have around students?
Many believe students don't care or are disaffected, but in reality every student wants recognition and appreciation, and walls often come from a need to protect pride.

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Listeners are drawn to leadership-focused conversations about turning schools into change agents. Episodes frequently center on practical implementations of transformative leadership, including building strong instructional cultures, leadership succession, space design, and the integration of AI and edtech to boost coherence across curricula. The show often blends actionable frameworks with case studies from districts and schools, highlighting real-world challenges, measurable outcomes, and the human side of leading through change. A notable strength is its ability to connect classroom-level practices with systemic reforms, making it useful for principals, district leaders, and educators seeking tangible strategies. The format tends to feat... more

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4. Jason Leshowitz
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7. Scott Bess
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