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Token Town is a weekly show where Aaron Francis and Ian Landsman break down what actually mattered in AI software development this week—new tools, model updates, workflows, and shipping lessons. Fast, practical, and aimed at builders who want signal over hype.

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Token Town is no more.  In an excerpt from this week's Mostly Technical, Ian and Aaron talk about why Token Town is coming to an end.

RIP to a real one.

Aaron & Ian discuss an OpenAI model breaking out and attacking Hugging Face, Cursor Router, the upcoming Kimi K3 model, and so much more.

• (00:00) - Is Sol doing too much?

• (04:36) - OpenAI & Hugging Face

• (10:31) - Cursor Router

• (16:03) - C... more

Aaron & Ian discuss Linus telling off the haters, the US getting back in the AI game, Claude for K-12, and Aaron's custom model that he's training.

• (00:00) - Linus Torvalds tells AI haters to fork off

• (05:29) - Claude for K-12

• (10:23) - Open... more

Aaron & Ian discuss the release of GPT 5.6, OpenAI seemingly copying Anthropic, every billionaire getting in the game, Aaron's feeling that we’re getting closer to the sci-fi future, and they both wonder if the release of new frontier models even mat... more

Aaron & Ian discuss the return of Fable 5, why every AI company is seemingly moving agents to the cloud, debate how good of a guy Sam Altman really is, and more.

Sponsored by Bento - bentonow.com

• (00:00) - Intro

• (01:00) - Fable 5 Is Ba... more

Aaron & Ian cover the long-awaited release of Fable 5 & Mythos 5 - does it live up to the hype?  Is it worth the cost?  Why can't Ian get access to Mythos?

Plus Claude adds nested subagents, Chinese models on the rise, and more

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This week Ian is joined by Josh Pigford, founder of Baremetrics, to talk about Codex Sites, Alphabet raising money for AI, Josh's personal AI setup, and so much more.

Sponsored by Bento.

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• Uber caps AI spend... more

This week Aaron & Ian talk about Claude Opus 4.8, Pope Leo XIV's thoughts on AI, dynamic workflows in Claude, and the absolute hottest take you've ever heard on a podcast.

Sponsored by Bento.

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• Dynamic Workflows

• Claude Code per... more

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007: GPT 5.6, GPT-Live, and more!
Q: What's the status on 5.6 and the new model mix with Sol and Terra?
They described 5.6 as a refreshed revision with new effort levels and a bigness indicator, highlighting that cheaper, more capable models will accelerate product development and adoption, though practical trade-offs remain in UI and human-in-the-loop needs.
007: GPT 5.6, GPT-Live, and more!
Q: How do you run Codex CLI, full bypass mode or sandbox with auto classifier?
They discussed YOLO mode for flexible usage and emphasized that many users run in contained environments, with auto mode offering safer, behind-the-scenes operation while still enabling powerful capabilities.
005: Fable 5 is here!
Q: Is this the first time when Anthropic has launched a new model but OpenAI didn't immediately follow?
The hosts suggest it feels like a tit-for-tat dynamic, with OpenAI slower to respond this time, though they acknowledge there isn't a definitive validation and note it may reflect broader strategic pacing.

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What is Token Town about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A fast-paced, practitioner-focused look at AI software tooling, model access, and deployment strategies. Across recent episodes, the hosts dissect breaking moves in AI platforms, pricing shifts, governance considerations, and practical workflows for builders working with open-weight models, enterprise tooling, and multi-model orchestration. The show leans into concrete takeaways, real-world use cases, and candid opinions about safety, governance, and vendor dynamics, all delivered with sharp banter and a focus on signal over hype. A standout angle is the balance between policy debates and hands-on tooling, making it especially valuable for engineers, product managers, and tech decision-makers who need actionable insights without slogging th... more

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