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The Asia Group's Rexon Ryu and Tiffany Ma break down the Indo-Pacific through revealing interviews with policymakers, business leaders, journalists, and artists from the world's most dynamic and consequential region. Previous guests include Dr. Anthony Fauci, former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, Congressman Ami Bera (D-CA), and Washington Post Asia editor Ana Fifield.

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In this Indo-Pacific Defense Incubator (IPDI) Spotlight episode of Tea Leaves, Kelly Magsamen and Chris Johnstone sit down with Admiral (Ret.) John Richardson and Admiral (Ret.) James Foggo to explore the urgent challenges and opportunities facing th... more

In this episode of Tea Leaves, Kelly Magsamen, Senior Advisor at The Asia Group, sits down with Abe Denmark, TAG Partner and former Senior AUKUS Advisor to the Secretary of Defense, to unpack the strategic significance of AUKUS Pillar II. They explor... more

In this episode of Tea Leaves, Rexon and Mira sit down with Kelly Magsamen, former Chief of Staff to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and newly appointed Senior Advisor at The Asia Group, to introduce the Indo-Pacific Defense Incubator (IPDI). Drawi... more

In this episode of Tea Leaves, TAG Chairman Dr. Kurt Campbell joins the show to discuss his recent Foreign Affairs article, “Underestimating China,” and outlines why the United States must shift its strategic approach to remain competitive. In his co... more

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Recent Guests

Abe Denmark
TAG partner with the Defense and National Security Practice
The Asia Group
Episode: IPDI Spotlight: Accelerating Allied Innovation Through AUKUS Pillar II
Kelly Magsamen
Senior Advisor to the Defense and National Security Practice at The Asia Group, former Chief of Staff to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin
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Episode: Building the Indo-Pacific’s Defense Future: Innovation, Industry, and Alliances with Kelly Magsamen
Dr. Kurt Campbell
Chairman and co-founder of The Asia Group; a prominent expert on U.S.-China relations and international security.
The Asia Group
Episode: Dr. Kurt Campbell Returns to Tea Leaves to Discuss The China Challenge: Industrial Scale and Allied Strategy
Dr. Evan Medeiros
Senior Advisor at The Asia Group
The Asia Group
Episode: Tariff Shockwaves: The New Era of U.S.-China Economic Competition
Mira Rapp-Hooper
Head of Geopolitical Risk Practice at The Asia Group
The Asia Group
Episode: Tariff Shockwaves: The New Era of U.S.-China Economic Competition
Kurt Tong
Former US Consul General in Hong Kong and current colleague at The Asia Group
The Asia Group
Episode: Tariffs, Technology, and Transactionalism - U.S. Policy in Asia Under Trump
Sharon Burke
Founder and President of Ecospherics, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy
Ecospherics
Episode: Sharon Burke on Environmental Security and the Energy Transition
Jennifer Welch
Chief Economics Analyst at Bloomberg and former director for China and Taiwan at the US National Security Council.
Bloomberg
Episode: Jennifer Welch on the Taiwan Election and Cross-Strait Dynamics

Hosts

Rexon Ryu
Host of The Tea Leaves Podcast; President of The Asia Group
Tiffany Ma
Senior Vice President at The Asia Group; Co-host of The Tea Leaves Podcast

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 116 ratings
  • Timely and insightful

    Occupies that sweet space between headline and policy wonkery with real insights for businesses and other followers of the region.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tsavatanem
    United States7 months ago
  • Timely and Insightful

    Rexon Ryu and Shery Ahn in the context of their own culture and heartwarming stories weave a stellar analysis of current events in the Indo Pacific sector. The interview with Retired Admiral Harry Harris gives insights of behind the scene events and an analysis of the Quad with probing questions. Looking forward to more episodes and interviews.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    narayan_s1
    United States5 years ago
  • Tea Leaves

    I really enjoy the new hosts! They each bring a unique perspective to the issues.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Random Gooner
    United States5 years ago
  • Stellar Analysis

    I’ve been an admirer of Kurt Campbell since meeting him as a junior Foreign Service Officer in 1999 in Thailand. I hope some day to meet Ambassador Verma. Together they exemplify the best of American foreign policy thinkers — experienced, insightful, inquisitive and aspirationally objective, by which I mean that while they count among the Democratic Party cognoscenti, their approach almost always transcends partisan bias. Terrific. My thanks to them both, Greg D’Elia

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    GregUmmSuqeim
    United States5 years ago
  • Great Questions, Very Interesting

    The two hosts ask great questions and elicit insightful responses. I was particularly impressed by Dr. Campbell's artful questions about the efficacy of the Department of State on the policymaking process during the lead-up to the Second U.S.-Iraq War during the first part of the postcast with Ambassador Burns.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DBox3000
    United States7 years ago

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IPDI Spotlight: Accelerating Allied Innovation Through AUKUS Pillar II
Q: How to get tangible capabilities out of Pillar 2?
Through strong leadership and follow-up on commitments made by the countries involved.
IPDI Spotlight: Accelerating Allied Innovation Through AUKUS Pillar II
Q: What do you think stands for Pillar 2 review?
The review is a genuine assessment of capabilities with significant money needed for success.
Building the Indo-Pacific’s Defense Future: Innovation, Industry, and Alliances with Kelly Magsamen
Q: Why choose this topic? Why defense innovation and emerging technologies?
Magsamen explains that the U.S. faces a serious capacity challenge in defense production, which was highlighted during the Ukraine conflict, highlighting the need for collaboration with allies.
Dr. Kurt Campbell Returns to Tea Leaves to Discuss The China Challenge: Industrial Scale and Allied Strategy
Q: What is the outcome that you see as preferred and favorable to the United States?
To ensure a group of like-minded countries are effectively working together, revitalizing international relations to sustain peace and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific.
Dr. Kurt Campbell Returns to Tea Leaves to Discuss The China Challenge: Industrial Scale and Allied Strategy
Q: What motivated you to write this piece with Rush?
We wanted to address the tendency in the strategic community to underestimate China and highlight the need for a new strategy of working with allies and partners.

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Focused on the complexities of the Indo-Pacific region, this podcast offers insightful commentary and analysis through interviews with a diverse range of policymakers, business leaders, and cultural figures. Experts on topics such as defense, diplomacy, and international relations share their perspectives, making the discussion rich and multi-faceted. Episodes typically address significant geopolitical issues, including U.S.-China relations, defense innovation, and the effects of economic policies on the region, appealing to listeners interested in a deeper understanding of the dynamics shaping today's global landscape.

The unique aspect of this podcast lies in its ability to combine expert analysis with personal stories, humanizing comple... more

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