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The Swim Brief

Chris DeSantis
Swimming
Coaching
USA Swimming
Positive Psychology
College Swimming
Mental Health
Youth Sports
Sports Psychology
Ego
Athlete Development
Denmark
College Athletics
Nutrition Coaching
Olympic Games
NCAA
2024 Paris Olympics
Olympics
World Aquatic Development Conference
Training Techniques
Mental Performance Coaching

A swimming podcast featuring natural conversations about the sport. Chris DeSantis brings the poolside conversation to the podcast form.

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You can’t wait until championships to teach swimmers how to handle championships.

Wisconsin head coach Dr. Jack Brown joins Chris DeSantis to discuss why mental skills deserve the same deliberate practice as physical ones. Drawing ... more

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Milo Cavic looks back at his younger self and sees an athlete he wouldn’t necessarily enjoy coaching: self-centered, fiercely invested in success, and determined to learn things the hard way.

The Olympic medalist joins Chris to dis... more

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Tracy Slusser has coached three NCAA championship teams. She has also experienced a coaching culture that made having children feel incompatible with doing the job at the highest level.

We talk about the expectations she absorbed e... more

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What is a developmental coach actually trying to finish?

Longhorn Aquatics head coach Mike Laitala joins Chris DeSantis to discuss why producing fast young swimmers is not the same as preparing athletes for long-term success. They ... more

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Milo Cavic
Olympic medalist, world champion, coach and owner of Swim with Milo
Swim with Milo
Episode: Milo Cavic Wouldn't Like His Younger Self
Tracy Slusser
Coach at Tracy Slusser Coaching, former collegiate coach, leadership coach for coaches
Tracy Slusser Coaching
Episode: The Coaching Culture That Pushes Parents Out: Tracy Slusser
Mike Laitala
Coach of Longhorn Aquatics
Longhorn Aquatics
Episode: Don't Finish The Athlete
Jack Roach
Former National Junior Team Coach for USA Swimming; ISL coach; Marine Corps veteran
USA Swimming, ISL
Episode: Wisdom Isn’t Taught. It’s Revealed
Jonathan Kaplan
Head coach and director of SwimRVA in Richmond, Virginia
SwimRVA
Episode: Building Swimmers Who Want To Be There: Jonathan Kaplan
Dan Schemmel
Head Coach, Stanford Men's Swimming and Diving
Stanford University
Episode: Building Culture in College Swimming’s Transactional Era
Alicia Glass
Sport Dietitian for USA Swimming
USA Swimming
Episode: Why Swimmers Aren’t Eating Enough | Alicia Glass
Doug Cornish
Former swim coach, now financial planner with a focus on coach compensation and benefits
First Financial Group
Episode: To Save Swimming, Start With the Coaches | Doug Cornish
Margo Geer
Head coach of swimming and diving at the University of Alabama
University of Alabama
Episode: The Making of a Head Coach | Margo Geer

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Chris DeSantis
Swim coach, educator, host of The Swim Brief Podcast

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 59 ratings
  • Stories and Insight

    Love your interview style. It was casual conversation loaded with great stories and insight.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Megan Devito
    United States7 months ago
  • An alternative to SwimSwam

    Really enjoy this podcast. Grateful for the candid talk and the nuanced takes on difficult subjects.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    alexandrabcarter
    United States4 years ago
  • Doesn’t really upload

    Please upload more. I get that you are busy but that would be nice.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Admin1414
    United States6 years ago

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The host delivers casual conversations packed with stories and insights.

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Apple Podcasts
#27
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Apple Podcasts
#14
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#23
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#27
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Milo Cavic Wouldn't Like His Younger Self
Q: What do you see as the balance between a strong training group and individualized attention for elite swimmers?
Milo argues for a balance where athletes benefit from high‑level groups but still receive personalized guidance, emphasizing that the sweet spot varies by individual and that communication is key to aligning expectations and progress.
Milo Cavic Wouldn't Like His Younger Self
Q: Do you think your present-day commentary on athletes changing environments would be different if you had a closer, ongoing relationship with those athletes?
Yes, Milo believes a closer relationship would change how he frames decisions like transferring teams, because more intimate context would alter his perspective and the advice he offers.
Milo Cavic Wouldn't Like His Younger Self
Q: You've been coached by some of the all-time greats of the sport; how do you reflect on those coach‑athlete relationships now, as a 42‑year‑old compared to when you were younger?
Reflecting on those relationships, Milo notes the evolution from a driven, highly self‑focused athlete to someone who values communication, mentorship, and the long‑term development of athletes. He emphasizes learning from different coaching styles while recognizing the limits and personal dynamics of each situation.
The Making of a Head Coach | Margo Geer
Q: What shifts have you noticed in your coaching approach from year one to year six?
I've become better overall, more willing to lean into difficult topics, and more intentional about stepping back to protect time for people, health, and long-term development rather than chasing immediate wins.
The Making of a Head Coach | Margo Geer
Q: When you first got the opportunity, did you have a concrete plan or was it more about shaping the environment and learning what the program needed?
It was a blend of having an openness to leadership and leveraging the existing strengths of the team; the focus was on creating an exciting, competitive environment and communicating a simple, clear blueprint for building the program.

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The show centers on high-performance swimming, coaching culture, athlete development, and the intersection of sports science, data analytics, and leadership. It features candid conversations with elite coaches, performance specialists, and sport-organization leaders, often exploring how to balance competitive pressure with healthy coaching ecosystems, practical talent development, and the role of mindset and culture in sustaining growth from grassroots to national teams. Notable angles include autonomy for assistants, governance and participation strategies, and how technology and psychology shape training, with a willingness to challenge conventional practices and spotlight opportunities for builders across clubs, colleges, and national pr... more

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7. Alicia Glass
8. Doug Cornish

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