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Take a walk into the world of derivatives, as ISDA explores developments in financial markets, risk management, regulation and technology. Featuring interviews with top experts in trading, policy, risk and economics, The Swap asks why the issues that matter actually matter.

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Tokenization has the potential to bring much-needed efficiency and flexibility to collateral management. Sandy Kaul from Franklin Templeton and the DTCC’s Joseph Spiro talk about the opportunities and the path to broader adoption.

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ISDA’s chair Amy Hong sets out priorities for the association in 2026 and the important role that technologies like tokenization and artificial intelligence will play in modernizing derivatives markets.

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Global policymakers are focused on a wide-ranging set of issues, including NBFI and the rapid development of advanced technologies. IOSCO secretary general Rodrigo Buenaventura unpacks the regulatory agenda.

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The pace of change in derivatives markets shows no sign of letting up, with rapid evolution across trading, regulation and technology. Industry veteran Don Wilson, founder of trading firm DRW, talks to The Swap about some of the biggest trends.

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Recent Guests

Amy Hong
ISDA chair, head of strategy, investments, and partnerships for global banking and markets for Goldman Sachs
Goldman Sachs
Episode: A Modernization Agenda
Rodrigo Buenaventura
Secretary General of IOSCO
IOSCO
Episode: The IOSCO Agenda
Don Wilson
Founder and CEO of DRW, a proprietary trading firm.
DRW
Episode: Innovative Thinking
Chris Edmonds
President of Fixed Income and Data Services at ICE
Intercontinental Exchange
Episode: Trading Places
Roy Choudhury
Managing Director and Senior Partner at BCG, leading the capital markets work in North America
Boston Consulting Group
Episode: The Value of Derivatives
Jeroen Krens
Managing Director and Chief Operating Officer of the Markets and Security Services Division at HSBC
HSBC
Episode: Meet the ISDA Chair
Tom Jasper
Former co-chair of ISDA and responsible for interest rate swaps at Salomon Brothers.
Salomon Brothers
Episode: ISDA at 40
Jeff Golden
Formerly at Cravath, Swain and Moore and involved in drafting early ISDA documentation.
Cravath, Swain and Moore
Episode: ISDA at 40
Tom Montag
CEO of Rubicon Carbon, former board member of ISDA, and experienced leader in derivative markets.
Rubicon Carbon
Episode: Building a Voluntary Carbon Market

Hosts

Nick Sawyer
Host of the show, brings expertise in financial markets and risk management.
Scott Amalia
Frequent co-host and expert on financial policy and regulation.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 30 ratings
  • Informative and concise

    The interview-format with industry leaders (public and private) leads to insightful conversations. I have found it difficult to find podcasts on finance at this level of detail and technicality that aren’t overwhelming, but The Swap strikes the perfect balance.

    Only wish there are more episodes available!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    _zana
    South Africa5 years ago

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Many find it difficult to find such high-level discussions on finance, particularly in derivatives, making it a unique resource.
Feedback often highlights the value of detailed and focused content, indicating listeners are well-informed and seeking depth in discussions.
Listeners appreciate the insightful interviews with industry leaders, balancing technicality with accessibility.

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#222
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#45
Hong Kong/Business/Investing
Apple Podcasts
#87
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#129
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#133
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#193
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A Modernization Agenda
Q: How does the board want to see engagement with policymakers regarding the regulatory framework?
We want ISDA to advocate for a regulatory regime that is efficient, avoids unnecessary complexity, and supports economic growth.
A Modernization Agenda
Q: What do you think ISDA's role should be in this space of digital assets and stable coins?
ISDA is focusing on legal certainty and standard documentation for digital asset derivatives, and we will continue that approach.
A Modernization Agenda
Q: How do you see the role of ISDA evolving as derivative markets continue to digitize, and how do we embrace new technology?
ISDA is already doing a lot to create industry standards and drive legal and regulatory certainty while developing mutualized solutions for the industry.
A Modernization Agenda
Q: What are your priorities as chair, and how does success look to you?
My top priority is to uphold ISDA's mission to foster safe and efficient derivatives markets, which will remain our North Star.
Innovative Thinking
Q: How does ISDA plan to support the safe and efficient use of digital assets?
ISDA aims to highlight differences in tokenized collateral and assess the legal and regulatory frameworks necessary to facilitate their safe use in transactions.

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This podcast explores developments in the world of derivatives, providing insights into financial markets, risk management, regulation, and technology. Featuring interviews with leading experts in trading, policy, risk, and economics, it addresses significant industry issues and their importance in a rapidly changing landscape. Conversations often include analysis of market trends, technological advancements such as artificial intelligence and blockchain, and discussions around regulatory matters that stakeholders need to navigate.

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