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The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt

Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll he... more

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Grilling season is here and so are Kenji and Deb to talk grilled chicken. From marinades to brines, to the one thing that can prevent dried-out grilled chicken: a meat thermometer. No easy access to a grill? We talk grill pans, using vinaigrette for ... more

21 hours ago

Iceberg lettuce gets a bad rap, but can make a good wrap. In this episode, Kenji and Deb go all in on lettuce. From wedge salads with homemade ranch to chronicling the rise, fall, and resurgence of the hardest-working lettuce in the kitchen. Knife an... more

15 days ago

News to us at Radiotopia, but there are some of you out there who have some really strong feelings about grilled cheese, almost enough for a whole separate podcast. What is it about this seemingly mellow, humble sandwich — a favorite of both small ch... more

a month ago

Some people think tomato soup only exists to serve as a dipping sauce for grilled cheese, but Kenji and Deb are here to set them straight. A properly, lovingly made tomato soup — even with sad-looking supermarket tomatoes from February — can be a tim... more

a month ago


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4.8 out of 5 stars from 457 ratings
  • Uncomfortable - hosts seem to dislike each other

    I like both of these cooks separately however the show is lousy because they seem to constantly try to passive aggressively put each other down. This also results in them insulting recipes that are being presented on the program simply because they came from the other person’s cookbook or something. They both come across as insufferable in my opinion.

    Apple Podcasts
    United Statesa month ago
  • Embarrassingly bad

    Kenji, you are better than this.

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    Food fancier
    United Statesa month ago
  • The Best!

    This is the podcast I listen to as soon as new episodes are available.

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    Rancho del Freako
    United Statesa month ago
  • My favorite!

    I look forward to listening to both of you every week! I loved the grilled cheese episode! I’m definitely team vertical cut - I also cut each rectangular half into 3 smaller rectangles for easy tomato soup dipping. Lol!!

    Apple Podcasts
    United Statesa month ago
  • Really fun and educational

    I love listening to these two discuss recipes and methods. I’ve made a few of the dishes they talk about thanks to their podcasts!

    Apple Podcasts
    United Kingdoma month ago

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