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The Optimistic Curmudgeon

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Classical Education
Education
Philosophy
The Faerie Queene
Military
Stranger Things
America's Christian Credit Union
The Ciceronian Society
Psychedelics
Classical Conversations
Plato
Allegory
Christian Education
Finance
Freedom In Education
Constitution
Tolkien
1980s Culture
Charlie Kirk
The American Book Of Fables

The Optimistic Curmudgeon is an interview podcast where Josh Herring interviews expert guests whose credentials and experience help listeners understand truth in a confusing world. We discuss issues under seven areas: economics, politics, education, philosophy, business, virtue, and leadership! May the best ideas win.

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Latest Episodes

Dr. Matthew Mehan calls his new book, The American Book of Fables, as a "250th birthday present" for America. Releasing today (5/19/26), this volume is filled with rhymes and songs "for Littles," fables "for Middles," and a treasure trove of witty-wi... more

Josh interview Dr. Tracy Gardner about her work in psychometrics, its application to national testing design, and the science of reading. Dr. Gardner has worked for the  @ClassicLearningTest ,  @Pearson , and is now the Vice-President for Workforce A... more

Mandi Gerth draws from her book Thoroughness and Charm: Cultivating the Habits of the Classical Classroom to explain what teaching is, how teachers can draw on the wisdom of Machiavelli to understand their authority and wield it for the good of their... more

Dr. Brad Birzer of Hillsdale College analyzes the Stranger Things series finale. Birzer argues that Stranger Things is a mythology of the 1980s, and he thinks the finale episode wraps up the series well. The younger generations of kids, the older gen... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. Matt Mehan
Associate Dean and Associate Professor of Government at Hillsdale College; author
Hillsdale College
Episode: Book Launch: The American Book of Fables, by Dr. Matthew Mehan
Tracy Gardner
PhD, expert in assessment and reading
Pearson (assessment designer)
Episode: Eulogy for Charlie Kirk, Assessment Design, and Phonics: Dr. Tracy Gardner (10x9)
Mandi Gerth
Administrative Director of the Cowan Center at the University of Dallas; author of Thoroughness and Charm
Cowan Center / University of Dallas
Episode: Creating Classroom Culture with Mandi Gerth (10x8)
Brad Birzer
Professor of History, Hillsdale College; Russell Amos Kirk Chair in American Studies
Hillsdale College
Episode: Stranger Things Series Finale, with Brad Birzer (10x7)
Ashley Lande
Author of The Thing That Would Make Everything Okay Forever, Transcendence, Psychedelics and Jesus Christ
Lexham Press (publisher) / Baker Books
Episode: Annie Crawford and Ashley Lande: Psychedelics and the Incarnation (10/6)
Annie Crawford
CS. Lewis Scholar and cultural apologist; author and podcaster
Salvo Magazine
Episode: Annie Crawford and Ashley Lande: Psychedelics and the Incarnation (10/6)
Josh Bowman
Dr. Josh Bowman, Executive Director of The Ciceronian Society
The Ciceronian Society
Episode: The Ciceronian Society - with Josh Bowman (10x5)
Chase Spears
Retired Army Officer, writer on civil and military relations
None explicitly stated
Episode: Only a Conservative Military Wins: Chase Spears (10x4)
Graham Dennis
Professor/Dean of Students at Veritas Academy; writer on Hue of St. Victor and medieval education
Veritas Academy
Episode: Culture: Procreative or Decreative (10x3)

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Josh Herring
Host of The Optimistic Curmudgeon

Reviews

4.1 out of 5 stars from 18 ratings
  • Engaging and intelligent

    Came across this podcast and really enjoyed the 3-4 episodes I’ve listened to.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Matthew C. Lucas
    United States8 months ago
  • Helpful

    I enjoy the variety on the show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    David B 89
    United Statesa year ago
  • Blech.

    I have to say, "The Optimistic Curmudgeon" hosted by Josh Herring is one of the worst podcasts I've ever listened to. First off, the guy is totally full of himself. He spends so much time talking about how great he is and all the things he knows, it's like he thinks he's the smartest person in the world. Honestly, it's super annoying and kind of sad to listen to.

    The biggest problem with this podcast is how Herring is completely absorbed in his own little world. It's like he lives in a bubble w... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    WhibleyAlder1979
    United States2 years ago
  • A gem of a podcast!

    Episode after episode of excellence. . . I’m hooked!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RebPettPgh
    United States2 years ago
  • Appreciative of Thinkers

    This podcast is a breath of fresh air if you appreciate thinking and realize ideas have consequences. I loved the one with Dr. Jewel and the discussion of Russell Kirk and the Conservative Mind. Take a break from Joe Rogan and check this out.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MisterMattio
    United States4 years ago

Listeners Say

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Can be polarizing; some listeners find host's viewpoints strong but insightful.
Captures thoughtful, well-argued conversations with experts.
High-quality guests and substantial takeaways for educators and policymakers.
Brings rigorous ideas to education and culture topics.

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Death, Sex, and Birth: Nathan Gwinn on Biology Education (10x2)
Q: How do the Franklin Standards address controversial biology topics like evolution and birth in biology classes?
They are honest about multiple theories, emphasize historical context, and allow population-specific adjustments (e.g., Catholic schools) while maintaining high rigor and clarity.
Eulogy for Charlie Kirk, Assessment Design, and Phonics: Dr. Tracy Gardner (10x9)
Q: How does Gardner differentiate assessment purposes when designing tests for classrooms versus statewide or national use?
She explains that classroom assessments require different rigor from accountability-focused state or national tests, and that timelines, group work, feedback, and the theory of action all shape what is measured and how results are interpreted, with emphasis on aligning assessment design to the intended use and the problem to be solved.
Eulogy for Charlie Kirk, Assessment Design, and Phonics: Dr. Tracy Gardner (10x9)
Q: What is Tracy Gardner's path into the field of large-scale educational assessment and the piano of standardization that shaped her career?
Gardner describes a long-standing passion for statistics and testing sparked by family exposure to math and testing design, her graduate work at the University of Pittsburgh, and early roles shaping state performance assessments, culminating in leadership at CLT and later at GED Testing Service where she helped align assessments with core standards and the aims of classical education.
Stranger Things Series Finale, with Brad Birzer (10x7)
Q: What is the best reason to watch the show?
To immerse yourself deeply in a richly layered world that combines 1980s nostalgia with a thoughtful depiction of community, growth, and the struggle between individualism and collectivism, all within an innovative streaming storytelling format.
Stranger Things Series Finale, with Brad Birzer (10x7)
Q: What did the Duffer Brothers need to accomplish in the finale?
They needed to honor Stranger Things as a fairy-tale narrative, deliver a satisfying resolution that ties the ensemble together, and preserve the show's core virtues of courage, friendship, and family, while balancing nostalgia with a credible final arc.

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A thoughtful, interview-driven show centered on exploring big ideas through experts across education, philosophy, economics, leadership, and culture. Episodes typically feature in-depth conversations with professors, authors, and practitioners who illuminate classical education, civic virtue, and public policy, often through a conservative or classical-liberal lens. Listeners likely appreciate rigorous, idea-forward discussions that connect timeless literature and philosophy to modern schooling, governance, and personal development. A notable strength is assembling provocative thinkers—from Hillsdale-affiliated scholars to classical education advocates—who unpack complex topics with practical takeaways for educators, administrators, and pol... more

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1. Dr. Matt Mehan
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3. Mandi Gerth
4. Brad Birzer
5. Ashley Lande
6. Annie Crawford
7. Josh Bowman
8. Chase Spears

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