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The Ongoing Transformation

Issues in Science and Technology
Public Health
Climate Change
Artificial Intelligence
Fungal Pathogens
Afghanistan
Labor Market
Education
Job Displacement
Taliban
Engineering
Adult ADHD
Disaster Response
United Nations
Automation
Science Policy
Health Equity
Speculative Fiction
Agriculture
Reindeer Herding
Valley Fever

The Ongoing Transformation is a biweekly podcast featuring conversations about science, technology, policy, and society. We talk with interesting thinkers—leading researchers, artists, policymakers, social theorists, and other luminaries—about the ways new knowledge transforms our world. This podcast is presented by Issues in Science and Technology, a journal published by Arizona State University ... more

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How do people find good jobs? How do employers find good talent? How should the American economy prepare for the future of work in the age of artificial intelligence?

On this episode, Issues editor Molly Galvin talks to Burning Glass Institute pres... more

Assistive reproductive technologies such as in vitro fertilization have helped many people have children. Behind many of these births are egg donors, whose experiences remain largely invisible in public narratives and scholarship. As reproductive tec... more

On Science Policy IRL, we talk to people in science policy about what they do and how they got there. Most of the people we’ve interviewed work in the legislative branch of the federal government or in agencies in the executive branch. In this instal... more

Innovation lately feels synonymous with the digital entrepreneurs of Silicon Valley or the high-tech corridor of Route 128 outside Boston. But when Thomas Edison opened his first research lab in the 1870s, it was in Newark, New Jersey. A few years la... more

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David Autor
Professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and one of the world's leading labor economists.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Episode: How Is AI Shaping the Future of Work?
Bhavya Lal
Leader in the space policy community, former acting chief of staff at NASA, and current professor at the RAND School of Public Policy
RAND School of Public Policy
Episode: Science Policy IRL: Bhavya Lal Charts a Future for Humans in Space
Brigitte van der Sande
A curator and art and culture historian who studies war.
Episode: Not Now, But Soon: The Art of Portraying War
Nasir Andisha
Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Afghanistan to the United Nations
United Nations
Episode: Not Now, But Soon: Losing Your Country
Julisa Tambunan
Deputy Executive Director at Equal Measures 2030 and a feminist policy strategist.
Equal Measures 2030
Episode: Not Now, But Soon: Who is Worth Measuring?
Thin Lei Win
Journalist specializing in food systems issues from Myanmar
Episode: Not Now, But Soon: The Food System is Rigged
Steven Gonzalez
Anthropologist of technology, speculative fiction writer, and creator of Taino Futurismo
Episode: Not Now, But Soon: A Hurricane of Data
Dr. David Goodman
Assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences.
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
Episode: How ADHD Affects Adults
Arula Ratnakar
A computational neuroscience PhD student and author of the story 'Coda'
Boston University
Episode: Using Storytelling to Investigate Scientific Questions

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Lisa Margonelli
Editor-in-Chief of Issues in Science and Technology
Malka Older
Host of Not Now, But Soon; involved in mini-series and related projects

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How Is AI Shaping the Future of Work?
Q: What are the most important things we have to do now, policy-wise, society-wise, to avoid the scenarios where AI displaces jobs?
We need to make the labor market work and consider steering AI to direct it towards benefiting workers while also establishing safety nets for those displaced.
Science Policy IRL: Bhavya Lal Charts a Future for Humans in Space
Q: What motivates you in your work?
I want technology to make life better and ensure that our scientific advancements also address the challenges we face on Earth.
Science Policy IRL: Bhavya Lal Charts a Future for Humans in Space
Q: What are you doing currently in your role at RAND?
I focus on space policy and collaborate with colleagues to generate papers that provide clarity to decision-makers on issues like space nuclear systems and planetary defense.
Not Now, But Soon: The Art of Portraying War
Q: How does art make war more proximate to people?
Art provides a deeper emotional insight and allows people to connect with the personal experiences of war.
Not Now, But Soon: The Art of Portraying War
Q: How do you tell people what it means to be an art historian and curator who studies war?
It's often misunderstood, as people typically only think of iconic depictions of war like Picasso's works.

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The discussions center on how science, technology, policy, and society shape real-world outcomes, with guests ranging from leading economists and space policy experts to journalists and policy practitioners. Episodes frequently explore AI, labor markets, data justice, disaster response, and the interplay between innovation and governance. A notable strength is connecting high-level ideas to concrete implications for policy, industry, and public welfare, often through interdisciplinary conversations that illuminate future-facing challenges and opportunities. The format tends to feature rigorous analysis paired with human-centric storytelling, making complex topics accessible to listeners who are decision-makers, researchers, or practitioners... more

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5. Julisa Tambunan
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7. Steven Gonzalez
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