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Endurance, strength, and long-term health in all its forms. The Next Move features conversations with athletes, coaches, scientists, and thinkers exploring how to train, think, and live better. By John Paton - @johngetstrong johngetstrong.substack.com

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George Hearn is a life coach who came into coaching through a high-achieving academic and corporate path—studying Geography at Cambridge, spending years in strategy consulting, and then moving into the startup world—before realizing he was more drawn... more

Gabrielle Nicora-Baker is an Elite 15 HYROX athlete who came into the sport from a pure strength and bodybuilding background, with almost no running experience before her first race in 2024. In less than a year, Gabrielle progressed from her first mi... more

Owen Silver is a software engineer and experienced triathlete who ran a 60-minute HYROX in his very first season of racing. Owen and I also teamed up for the HYROX Pro Doubles in Melbourne, where we finished in 58:52. In this episode, Owen breaks dow... more

Pelayo Menendez-Fernandez holds the Hyrox doubles world record, having raced an incredible 48:31 alongside Rich Ryan in Miami.

In this episode, we break down the training principles that fuel his performances — from his signature “Hyrox endurance” s... more

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Recent Guests

Gabrielle Nikora-Baker
Elite 15 Hyrox athlete
Episode: Strength Changes Everything! No Running To Elite HYROX Athlete in One Year: Gabrielle Nikora-Baker (#15)
Owen Silver
Athlete transitioning from triathlon to Hirox competitions.
Episode: A Sub-60 HYROX Is Nearly Impossible Without a Strong Aerobic Base - Owen Silver (#14)
Pelayo Menendez-Fernandez
Hyrox athlete and world record holder
Episode: Hyrox World Record Holder: Efficiency is Key for Hyrox! Most Athletes Get This Wrong!(#13)
Iñaki De La Parra
An exceptional endurance athlete and Ultraman champion.
Episode: Iñaki de la Parra: "Zone 2 Training Burned Me Out... Here's How I Train Now" (#10)
Tim Wenisch
The 2025 Hyrox World Champion.
Episode: “I Wasn’t Even at Max Effort” – How Tim Wenisch Won the 2025 Hyrox World Championship (#6)
Gordo Byrn
Former Ultraman champion and endurance athlete.
Endurance Essentials
Episode: Endurance Icon Gordo Byrn: Going All-In On Training, Avoiding Burnout, How To Build a Coaching Business, 30 Years of Writing, And Much More... (#3)
Alan Couzens
Elite endurance coach focused on helping athletes maximize their potential.
Episode: Elite Endurance Coach: “They Trained More… and Got Worse” — The Science of Endurance with Alan Couzens

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John Paton
Host of discussions focusing on endurance, strength, and long-term health, engaging with athletes, coaches, and thought leaders in fitness.

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Strength Changes Everything! No Running To Elite HYROX Athlete in One Year: Gabrielle Nikora-Baker (#15)
Q: Have you been surprised at just how much endurance is required to succeed at Hyrox?
No, I feel like I've only kind of just realized it.
Strength Changes Everything! No Running To Elite HYROX Athlete in One Year: Gabrielle Nikora-Baker (#15)
Q: What is really capturing your motivation right now?
It's probably just getting better at everything just because there's so much to work on.
Strength Changes Everything! No Running To Elite HYROX Athlete in One Year: Gabrielle Nikora-Baker (#15)
Q: How do you feel about how strong Hyrox athletes should be?
I feel like my opinion has changed a little bit. I don't feel like you need to be super strong.
A Sub-60 HYROX Is Nearly Impossible Without a Strong Aerobic Base - Owen Silver (#14)
Q: Where do you want to go in this sport?
Owen is contemplating whether to fully commit to Hirox or explore CrossFit and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for greater variety in his training.
A Sub-60 HYROX Is Nearly Impossible Without a Strong Aerobic Base - Owen Silver (#14)
Q: What made you get into Hirox?
Owen transitioned from triathlon due to burnout and found Hirox to be a perfect balance between strength and endurance training.

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