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The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR

The Modern People Leader
Employee Engagement
AI In HR
HR Technology
Employee Experience
Performance Management
Remote Work
Artificial Intelligence
Human Resources
Workplace Culture
Leadership
People Operations
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
HR Leadership
Change Management
Mental Health
Organizational Network Analysis
Compensation
Work-Life Balance
Corporate Culture
Leadership Development

Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.

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Laura Tomaino, Chief People Officer at Glooko, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why “People-First” leadership feels harder in 2026 and what it actually looks like to live up to that today.

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Jevan Lenox, Chief People Officer at Writer, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

We talked about why AI adoption alone is not enough, how companies can use “directed innovation” to drive real business outcomes with AI, and what high performance ... more

Kirsten Moorefield, Chief Strategy Officer & Co-Founder at Cloverleaf, Sarika Lamont, CPO at Vidyard, and Sarah Royer, Sr. Manager of People Ops at Nirvana Insurance, joined us on The Modern People Leader for a live discussion on AI coaching.

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Cara Brennan Allamano (Founder of PeopleTech Partners and former Chief People Officer at Lattice) and Jevan Lenox (Chief People Officer at Writer) joined Stephen at Fix Healthcare Live.

They talked about the growing pressure on HR leaders and why m... more

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Recent Guests

Laura Tomaino
Chief People Officer, Glooko
Glooko
Episode: 304 - What Actually Being People-First Looks Like: Laura Tomaino (Chief People Officer, Glooko)
Jevan Lenox
Chief People Officer
Rider (AI platform)
Episode: 301 - There's No “Right Answer” Anymore in HR: Jevan Lenox (Chief People Officer, Writer) & Cara Brennan Allamano (Founder, People Tech Partners)
Cara Brennan Allamano
Founder
People Tech Partners
Episode: 301 - There's No “Right Answer” Anymore in HR: Jevan Lenox (Chief People Officer, Writer) & Cara Brennan Allamano (Founder, People Tech Partners)
Stephan Dolling
AVP of Global Benefits and Well-being
Merck
Episode: 300 - Supporting Parents: AVP of Global Benefits & Well-being at Merck + CEO of Wellthy
Amin Palizban
Co-founder & CEO, TopicFlow
TopicFlow
Episode: 298 - How to Stop Managing from Memory: Amin Palizban (Co-founder & CEO, Topicflow)
James Seechurn
Author of Nothing Left to Take Away and What Pay Costs; advisor on rewards and labor economics
Independent consultant / Author
Episode: 296 - Rethinking How we Pay People: James Seechurn (Author of 'What Pay Costs’ & ‘Nothing Left to Take Away’
Claude Silver
Chief Heart Officer, VaynerX
VaynerX
Episode: 295 - Workplace Dread, Gen Z, & Leaving Your "Heart Print": Claude Silver (Chief Heart Officer, VaynerX)
Zachary Parris
AI transformation engineer at Google
Google
Episode: 294 - AI Is Turning HR into Builders: Zachary Parris (AI x Talent @ Google)
Deborah Yount
Chief Human Resources Officer at Sutter Health
Sutter Health
Episode: 293 - How Sutter Health Reduced Attrition by 40% Across 60k Employees: Deborah Yount, CHRO at Sutter Health

Hosts

Daniel Modern People Leader
Host of the episode and lead moderator; long-running host with focus on HR transformation and leadership.
Stephen Modern People Leader
Co-host and discussion facilitator; leads conversations with guests on HR strategy and leadership.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 142 ratings
  • Just right for this moment!

    A really useful conversation about the future of work and how AI is reshaping engagement. I appreciated how the focus stayed human, even while talking about technology. Left me with a smart reset for how I think about leading people through change.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PattyF831
    United States5 months ago
  • I love it!!

    Ollo I really like this podcast my dad did it!!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    OLlo 1000
    United States2 years ago
  • Insightful podcast for anyone in HR

    I stumbled upon a MPL podcast episode recently and was impressed at how down to earth and practical the conversations are. The topics and insights are so timely and relevant (even as I listen to episodes from a year ago), and have helped me gain more insights into what it’s like to serve in a high-level people leader role. This helps me to explore whether or not I want to move in that direction in the future, and also to be more strategic in my current work with a deeper understanding of how VPs... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    krys182
    United States3 years ago
  • Highly recommend!

    The Modern People Leader has quickly become a favorite in my podcast feed! Daniel and Stephen are excellent hosts and the the topics they cover are incredibly timely. Easily one of the most genuine and value-packed podcasts for people leaders. Highly recommend giving it a listen!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    oliviabaker13
    United States4 years ago
  • Pioneering the future

    I really enjoyed participating in the Modern Leader podcast. The team is forward looking and their mission to spread knowledge and insights is inspiring.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Werneck, Melissa
    Brazil4 years ago

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Talking Points

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303 - Directed Innovation: How to Point AI at Something That Actually Matters (Jevan Lenox, Chief People Officer, Writer)
Q: What piece of advice would you give to someone starting their career today?
Be optimistic and embrace the revenge of the generalist: cultivate broad, outcomes-focused thinking rather than narrowing early; skills like systems thinking and cross-functional collaboration will be valuable as AI reshapes work.
304 - What Actually Being People-First Looks Like: Laura Tomaino (Chief People Officer, Glooko)
Q: Can you share a tough decision you had to make and how you balanced data, fiscal constraints, and people impact?
Laura recounts a recent benefit redesign where they discovered a misfit with regional needs, pivoted quickly, and communicated openly to preserve trust. She emphasizes the importance of owning mistakes and iterating toward better outcomes.
304 - What Actually Being People-First Looks Like: Laura Tomaino (Chief People Officer, Glooko)
Q: What does it mean to be a 'people first' leader in today's environment, and how do you prioritize four drivers across a global, regulated healthcare company?
She outlines the four drivers—connection, alignment, recognition, growth—and discusses translating them into everyday decisions, communications, and programs that work across diverse regions while maintaining regulatory compliance and patient-centered outcomes.
304 - What Actually Being People-First Looks Like: Laura Tomaino (Chief People Officer, Glooko)
Q: Tell us your story. What led you to become Chief People Officer at Glooko?
Laura explains her path from academia to HealthEdge, building HR from scratch, leading growth, and ultimately joining Glooko to scale a global, mission-driven people function. She emphasizes learning by doing, staying close to the work, and shaping culture through practical, repeatable people initiatives.
299 - AMA with Jessica Zwaan on Org Design & Metrics
Q: How do you measure the impact of a people ops product when data is incomplete?
Begin with baseline metrics that you can reliably track (e.g., internal promotion retention, regrettable attrition, ELTV), then expand to cross-functional metrics and correlations as data quality improves, while documenting gaps and using iterative improvements.

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What is This Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on modern people leadership, with candid conversations from CHROs, CPOs, and senior HR leaders about how to modernize work, leverage AI responsibly, and align people strategy with business outcomes. Episodes frequently explore AI-enabled coaching, org design as a product, benefits design, and leadership culture in fast-changing organizations, often highlighting practical playbooks, governance, and how to communicate strategy to managers and frontline teams. Notable strengths include a human-centered lens on technology, a willingness to challenge traditional HR paradigms, and real-world case studies from large enterprises and high-growth companies. The format tends to be action-oriented, with clear takeaways for practitione... more

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2. Jevan Lenox
3. Cara Brennan Allamano
4. Stephan Dolling
5. Amin Palizban
6. James Seechurn
7. Claude Silver
8. Zachary Parris

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